Getting Search Engines To Find Flash Sites
I'm not sure if this issue has been addressed in quite the same way...
As I understand it, when search engines go looking for hits, they're combing through a website, looking for the most relevant examples of the search criteria. That's easily done with an html site, nearly impossible with a Flash site.
But since a full Flash site still has to reside within an html page, couldn't you place the words you think would be found by a search engine in the html header, or something?
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Posted on: 07-02-2007, 11:42 AM
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hi,
i'm using flash mx 2004 pro and have created a site that is pretty much all in flash. the site makes use of 3 html pages with searchable data for search engines. is there a way to have more content in flash be searchable?? is adding more html pages the only way? can i add dynamic text that is searchable by google or yahoo? i've been searching and searching for the best way that would require the least amount of revamping the site. any ideas or tricks i can be enlightened with would be mcuh appreciated.
thanks!
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