Flash :: Removing Stuff From SOAP Request?

Soap
I need to consume a web service I wrote in .NET that requires SOAP to interact. After spending one whole morning and afternoon on the Internet, I found various "solutions" - using the Flash Remoting component, or have a server-side script to act as an interface, or use XML.addRequestHeader().

Option 1 requires $$$, option 2 defeats the purpose of writing a webservice (since it is automated in ASP.NET), while option 3 doesn't really work. I checked the request headers and they remained intact, despite following the same exact code discussed on the late release notes on Macromedia.com.

So, how could I get Flash to use SOAP?

Anybody Using SOAP?
Hey I'm looking around a bit at SOAP. Does anyone have any advice?

Actionscript And XML SOAP...possible?
OK, i've been beating my head against the wall looking for something that will explain to me how I can make SOAP requests from WITHIN macromedia..
that is, I DONT want to loadVars from a php that will actually do the SOAP calls for me...
My ideal solution:
I define an xml object, say myXML and input all the information I want to send (I know how to do this).

i then send this info....SOMEHOW...to a SOAP client and get back the info AS AN XML

So, if someone can fill in the SOMEHOW with an actual command, I would appreciate it...
of course, if sum1 knows of some OTHER method, or could perhaps point me to a tutorial that EXPLAINS how to do it, I would appreciate it
thnx

SOAP And WebService
I'm trying to send SOAP requests with WebService.

WebService.loadWSDL seems to load the configuration stuff. I know I can use getOperation, then Send to send things, but the callbacks from the AsyncToken never seem to get called.

Am I doing things right? I don't want to do this with the UI XML; I want to do it in ActionScript.

I'm not sure Send is what I really want to do, and I'm not sure what the parameters are for a remote call.

Say I have

Code:
<SomeOperation xmlns="http://foo.com/file">
<Parameter1>foo</Parameter1>
<Parameter2>bar</Parameter2>
</SomeOperation >
the xmlns and SomeOperation part should have been parsed with loadWSDL (I think). I'm not sure how to send the parameters. I tried making XML objects with Parameter1 as the root, but I didn't get a response.

Pointers, examples, and anything else would be appreciated.

Thank you!

SOAP With Flash AS3
Hi all , i have problem parsing the SOAP response i got from my SQL database. Can anyone help mi on how can i get the value of the "getUserName2Result" node that is jon out so that i can assign it to a label ...

here is the code :

nWeb Service Result:
eb Service Result:
<Envelope>
<Body>
<getUserName2Response>
<getUserName2Result xmlns="http://localhost:2759/ChineseCheckerWebsite/WebService.asmx">Jon</getUserName2Result>
</getUserName2Response>
</Body>
</Envelope>

arhh i solved it .. thx

Can I Use SOAP With Flash 6
Hi,

I am doing some research to see if we will be able to use SOAP with flash player 6. At first I tried to use the WebService class but that did not work. I was told that class will only work with flash 7. Now I am not sure what to do. Any thoughts.

Brady

SOAP Header
I am creating an application that has uses a validation token that times out. The web service I am using returns a new validation token every time I receive a call. So here's the problem; when I receive the response data from my web service I need need to also read the response header to get the new token. So basically, all I need is a way to read the content of the SOAP response header. Any help would be much appreciated.

Web Service(soap)
is there any option to use web services in actionscript 1.is it possible???

Flash And SOAP
hi there ...
i'm interested to know if there are any tools or API's for SOAP with Flash other than using PHP in the middle . I'm interested in a pure J2EE - > SOAP - > FLASH thing .

I guess I could write SOAP interpreters in action script right ?
but are there any provided allready , maybe wrappers of the XML object or something ?

Flash Soap
Is it possible to run a flash script that basically gets messages from a SOAP service and parses it and displays it without having to install IIS or apache on the machine running the Flash Script?

Floating Picture Thinggy... Does Stuff... Stuff I Don't Know How To Do...
Check this out. I'm making a website and at the bottom of the site i want floating pictures. They not only float but they continue to move to the left. Untill you place the mouse over the pictures and then you can either make them go left or right with the speed varying as you go further to each side. Then when you select them there is a loading process and the pictures come up in a cool way and the rest is history. Now here is the problem... how do you do all that stuff. I'm talkin' 'bout all of it. Make them look like they float, make them go left and right and default left, and the... well the selection I can manage. Assistance would be quite nice. Thanx alot whoever answers this.

Why Is My HTML Stuff Messing With My Flash Stuff?
Hi fellas, I have an HTML page that has the regular drop down menues and some buttons in them. Nothing fancy. I also have a Flash banner withing the HTML page. The problem is whenever I go over the buttons in the HTML portion, my Flash banner pauses until I move the mouse away from any HTML buttons. Why would that be?!
Many thanks in advance.

Memory Leaks And SOAP
I have been reading about web services and how you can either use Flash Remoting or SOAP - But there are some serious memory leaks if you use SOAP. Does any know if this has been fixed?

Thanks

[F8] WSDL And SOAP Problem
I searched the forums and websites but can't seem to find anything on the subject.

I have a web service I am trying to connect to. the service exists and is working however a soon as I connect to it with flash I receive the following msg.

NoPorts
There are no valid services/ports in the WSDL file!

The service is however working for a C++ solution.

Is there a workaround for defining ports in flash?

Com48

Parsing A SOAP Response
Hi all, I have two web services: one fetches a password, the other builds and sends an email. In order for the email to build I need to give it the password from the first service. My send mail service tests fine, but what I'm having problems with is parsing out the service response of the password request (so I can pass that variable to the second web service).

Here's the code I currently have:

PHP Code:

private function done(serviceResponse:XML):void {
  var mystring:String=serviceResponse.toString();
  var myxml:XML;
  myxml=new XML(mystring);
  trace (myxml);
}

The above code traces this:

<soap:Envelope xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<soap:Body>
<getSendMailPasscodeResponse xmlns="http://www.omittedurl.com/webservices/">
<getSendMailPasscodeResult>passwordVariableIsHere< /getSendMailPasscodeResult>
</getSendMailPasscodeResponse>
</soap:Body>
</soap:Envelope>

I can't figure out how to parse this so I can get the 'passwordVariableIsHere' to trace on it's own (if I can get that, then I can subsequently attach it to a variable).

Thanks.

~Jason

Makin SOAP Requests In AS3
It's been awhile since I've used flash (before AS3) and I used to consider myself quite proficient.

Now that I'm trying to use AS3 I find myself totally lost :S

I have some old code in AS2 (used to make soap requests) that I need to convert to AS3 to make use of the advanced XML parsing features.

I'd appreciate if anyone could AT LEAST point me in the right direction (though if you want to give me the updated code I won't complain). AS has changed so drastically that I'm unsure where to look. :P

ActionScript Code:
//set the Server to use
var serverURL = 'SomeServerName';

var SOAPHeaders:Array = new Array("Some header name", "Some header Value");

//RuName request
XMLString = '<SomeXMLInHERE></SomeXMLInHERE>';

//create the XML
var SearchRequestXML:XML = new XML(XMLString);

//Add the headers
SearchRequestXML.requestHeaders(SOAPHeaders);

//Create the container for the response
var responseXML:XML = new XML();

//Set up the trace
responseXML.onLoad = function(success:Boolean){
trace(success);
trace("result: " + responseXML.toString());
}

SearchRequestXML.sendAndLoad(serverURL, responseXML);

thnx

Parsing A SOAP Response
Hi all, I have two web services: one fetches a password, the other builds and sends an email. In order for the email to build I need to give it the password from the first service. My send mail service tests fine, but what I'm having problems with is parsing out the service response of the password request (so I can pass that variable to the second web service).

Here's the code I currently have:

PHP Code:

private function done(serviceResponse:XML):void {
  var mystring:String=serviceResponse.toString();
  var myxml:XML;
  myxml=new XML(mystring);
  trace (myxml);
}

The above code traces this:

<soap:Envelope xmlns:soap="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">
<soap:Body>
<getSendMailPasscodeResponse xmlns="http://www.omittedurl.com/webservices/">
<getSendMailPasscodeResult>passwordVariableIsHer e< /getSendMailPasscodeResult>
</getSendMailPasscodeResponse>
</soap:Body>
</soap:Envelope>

I can't figure out how to parse this so I can get the 'passwordVariableIsHere' to trace on it's own (if I can get that, then I can subsequently attach it to a variable). Please, any help will be very much appreciated.

Thanks.

~Jason

WebServicesConnector SOAP Email
Using the WebServicesConnector I have successfully connected to our email server and all the parameters are listed. The binding is working great for sending an email to my own inBox for testing purposes...BUT...what I am not getting is the BODY of the text. I get the email with a Subject Line collected from one of the textFields just fine.

The parameter for the body is pstrBody and I have that bound to the firstName and lastName etc. Is there something obvious here that I am missing...? Does anyone know where there may be a tutorial specifically dealing with Flash, SOAP, and email?

Amending SOAP Header
My Axis SOAP server developers has recently added SOAP header authentication and so far I have managed to add Authentication tags in header. I am using SoapHeaderFix.as class provided on Adobe website to enable this functionality.
So I am adding these two tags inside header using AddPersistentSOAPHeader method of SoapHeaderFix class and my header looks something like...

<SOAP-ENV:Header><ns1:authenticateUser SOAP-ENV:encodingStyle="

HTTPS , SOAP And Flash CS3
Hello all.

I have a project the requires HTTPS and SOAP calls. Started researching this and figured out that Adobe stripped this out for Flash CS3, but Flex has the mx.rpc.soap Webservice.

So at the moment I am at a loss for a solution to make SOAP calls over HTTPS. Any ideas or pointers are greatly appreciated.

~squit

Webservice/SOAP Connector
Hello everybody,
As you may guess from the title, I need to connect to a web service using the Flash player. I found some information here http://www.kirupa.com/forum/showthre...highlight=soap unfortunately the class is no longer available to download.

Does someone knwo fo a class I can use to connect to a web service?

Many thanks

Daniel

Flash And SOAP CrossDomain
Hey
I am having a problem with Flash requesting an XML using SOAP.
Flash sends an XML to the server using SOAP and sendAndLoad(), the web service sends a generated XML file.
I have no problems locally on my computer until I put it up on my server and the crossDomain problem comes up.
I was told to use PHP to make the call to the web service (after XML sends the required username and password to the php) and send the xml to flash.
The problem is I am not good at php and I do not have control over the server with the web service.
Is there any examples out there or can anybody help me out here?
Thanks

SOAP Web Service With AS3 Question
Hi Guys,

I'm new to AS world and just start using it with AS3 recently.

I have some web services that I need to consume. I've tried the mx.rcp.soap classes but it add some 120k overhead to the swf file so I steered away from it.

I resort to manually construct XML soap message and POST it with some custom headers to fulfill soap spec. by using URLLoader/URLRequest things and it works really well except that I can't read soap fault when it occurs.

Because soap fault come with http 500 (.Net Web Service), the loader just throw an exception before I can capture soap fault message. Is there a way around this?

Many thanks,
saran

Parsing Soap Requests
I'm using alducente's web service in as3 release found here.

http://alducente.wordpress.com/2007/...s3-release-10/

I'm having a hard time parsing the soap xml i get. I've googled until my nose bled and nothing still. Can anybody help me with this?

When i try getting the id elements in the xml, it doesn't work. But i can get the whole xml document fine.

Code:
//Required imports

import alducente.services.WebService;
import flash.events.*;

var xmlData:XML = new XML();

//Instantiate the class
var ws:WebService = new WebService();

//Add a listener for when the web service methods become available
ws.addEventListener(Event.CONNECT, connected);

//Connect to the service by downloading the WSDL
ws.connect("http://dev.clubkiddoo.com/ClubKiddoo/src/KiddooService.asmx?WSDL");

//Once connected, call an available method on the service named "ResolveIP" with the appropriate parameters
function connected(evt:Event):void{

trace('connected')

ws.GetAllActivities(done, "GetAllActivitiesRequest()");

}

//This function is called when there is a response from the sesrvice
function done(serviceResponse:XML):void{
trace("nWeb Service Result: ");
trace(serviceResponse);
trace(serviceResponse.Id) // returns nothing

}

Web Services With Flash (soap)
I'm in the process of making a photo DVD using flash. I'd like to know if it's possible to use flash to communicate with a web server via SOAP (I know flash might have some issues loading external files?). if so, can someone point me in the direction of how I can get started with this.

SOAP Error Handling
Hi all,

I got problem with Some Webservices, when i got a Soap Fault it returns a correct envellope like ...
...><SOAP-ENV:Body><SOAP-ENV:Fault><faultcode>SOAP-ENV:Server</faultcode><faultstring>Login Failed for user Admin</faultstring>...

but when i try to catch this error by a
objService.onFault = function(fault){
Alert.show(fault.faultstring,.....
}

I got a message "Error opening URL <Web Service Page>
and the program seems to crash on the line
response.onData = function(src)
{
var cb = this.callback;
delete(this.callback); //Fix for bug#74567 - Circular reference causes memory leak
......
in the class mx.services.SOAPCall

Any Ideas someone ?

Flash With SOAP AuthHeader
Does anyyone here know how to include AuthHeaders in a soap request coming from a flash client?

SOAP: Namespaces For WSDL Parser ?
Hi,

did you ever use a SOAP webservice? There is a nice one which layout graph flowcharts automatically:

http://cmap.ihmc.us/xml/LayoutWebService.wsdl
(Description: http://cmap.ihmc.us/xml/LayoutWebService.html)
However, it returns me this error message:

<< WDSL.UnrecognizedNamespace
The WDSL parser had no registered document for the namespace. >>

No idea what this means...

Undefined Array Of Objects From .NET Soap?
Hi,

I've written a web service to return an array of Tag objects (I'm building a tag cloud widget).

For some reason, all the Tag objects from the service show up as "undefined" when I trace the result of the SOAP call in Flash 8 Pro. I've imported the WebServiceClasses into my library.

The response from the service looks like this:

Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<ArrayOfTag xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns="http://foo.org/services/">
<Tag>
<Name>communication</Name>
<Weight>3</Weight>
</Tag>
<Tag>
<Name>site</Name>
<Weight>2</Weight>
</Tag>
<Tag>

<Name>comments</Name>
<Weight>2</Weight>
</Tag>
</ArrayOfTag>
Traced result from Flash is: onGetTagsList_Result:undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined,undefined ,undefined,undefined

(I removed some Tag objects from the SOAP response for brevity, there are 35 "undefined" objects and 35 tags in the SOAP response.)

What am I doing wrong here? This used to work, I haven't done any Flash for a bit...

AJ

Using Mx.rpc.soap.WebService In Action Script 3
I have created a flash application in Action Script 2 that uses a lot of web services to get information from the server. I am now trying to move this application over to use Action Script 3 for the improved performance but am having trouble getting the mx.rpc.soap.WebService to even be recognized by the compiler. All I get is this error

1172: Definition mx.rpc.soap:WebService could not be found.

Do I need to download the Flex SDK and put it somewhere for flash to recognize it? Can anyone help?

Is Crossdomain.xml Needed For SOAP Web Services?
A Flash developer who is attempting to use Flash to access a SOAP web service provided on one of our servers says we need to add a crossdomain.xml file to our server listing their domain as an acceptable source. The SOAP service simply accepts some data and returns a status. It doesn't make sense to me that we would need to provide a crossdomain.xml file. If we did, all web services all over the Internet would have to do the same to allow Flash to call them.

If I am correct and the file is not necessary, then what else in FlashPlayer might be blocking their attempts to access our server? I don't know much about Flash, but I do know some sort of security configuration files are necessary to allow SWF files to access the Internet. Could this be what they are missing?

Flash Remoting VS Soap Web Service
I am working on a solution to integrate Flash movies with Microsoft Content Management Server. The movies will pull resources (eg: images, audio, movies, text) from MCMS. The decision has been made to go with a web service to facilitate this communication. Which choice is better and why...
- Flash Remoting
or
- Flash using SOAP

Data From Webservice: (WSDL/SOAP)
Hi there,

I have successfully managed to connect my flash through a SOAP web service (despite a lack of beginner level resources!). The problem comes from receving data back.

Strings I can handle, but integers and arrays are giving me a headache. This might be a simple problem, but im out of my depth.

I am using the following code to get the data back:

PHP Code:

soappResult.onResult = function(result) { trace ("success"); }

As I said earlier, this works for strings, but not for arrays or integers.

Any advice? Thanks!

SOAP WebService WSDL Caching
I am really hoping that someone on this forum has used the WebService classes, because I have a few tricky questions.

To start off, I have a situation where I am using a SOAP WebService. I start the service in Actionscript with:

Code:
myService = new WebService(myWSDL_URL, myLogObj);
Here is the link to the Web Service class on livedocs and the Web Service Constuctor. Apparently "When you call new WebService(), you provide a WSDL URL, and Flash Player returns a WebService object". Thats great!

My issue is that the server that my WSDL is on, seems to be very slow, and the WSDL file is very large. So it takes around 5 seconds to initially grab the WSDL file. This wouldn't be too bad, but for what I am doing I need to create about 5 or more WebService objects all using the same WSDL (this is a must). It seems pointless to download the WSDL for each new object when I know it is the same.

What I am wanting is a way to maybe cache the WSDL locally, or in flash(maybe as an XML object), then apply it to a new WebService object. Or even if someone could tell me how to access the data inside the WebService Object and apply it to a new one. Does anyone have any ideas.

I have tried a few ideas. I tried using a "clone object" script to clone the WebService object once the original has loaded the WSDL. But it crashed flash because the loop is too big.

Is this a case to use a "prototype"? I'm not too sure what it even is. Would it be useful in this situation?

Access SOAP Attachemtn From Flash
I am want to use a web service that sends back data as a soap attachement. Is there anyway to access this data with flash MX 2004 Pro? Can it be done with the web service connector or through actionscript?

Removing Attached Movie And Resetting/removing All The Variables It Set?
I have attachMovie() that calls up an item with a Class that extends movie clip, it gets refresh but it is not removing the variables it set earlier and it's giving me a headache.

Is there a way to remove it and ALL the variables contained within?

Thanks!

Orbiting Stuff Around Other Stuff
Hi y'all

I've been searching the web for about 2 hours now, hoping to find some actionscript which makes something (eg a planet) around something else (eg another planet), but so far, I haven 't found anything ..

I did find something for Flash 8, but I'm not sure if it's going to work by just pasting it in CS3 ..

The thing is, even if I do get the script working in AS3, how do I make the object do a circular motion at the same time as the orbital motion?

If planet1 starts above planet2, goes down in front of p2, disappears behind p2, than how do I make it shift a bit to the left/right when above p2 again.
Repetig this should then result in a circular + orbital motion.

Does anyone know how to do this, or do you have to see the code (even though it is still AS2 right now)? In that case just ask me

Thanks!

SOAP, C++, C#, Or Other Access To Flash Media Server Server Management ActionScript API,
I'm writing code to manage a farm of Flash Media Servers, and I need to call some Flash Media Server APIs from languages other than ActionScript.

I'm happy to write some of my code in ActionScript subroutines, and just use the NetConnection remote call API to invoke those functions. But I can find no way to do this.

I was initially enticed by the alleged support for Web-Services, but was disappointed to find that it only (appears) to support consumption of web services - not PROVISION of web services.

I saw that there was an external API accessible from flash media player itself, but that appears to require embedding the media player in a web browser, etc.

Is it - perhaps - possible to directly invoke the flash-media-player from a C# application using their COM-bridge in .Net? And then use that to invoke remote connections - without having any client side actionscript?

Any other ideas?

On Request?
I posted this on the gen flash 5 board, wondering if you could help...

I am pretty new, and I was wondering...

I am making a bar with music in it, there is a little animation before the music starts to play... I have the music set to stream, and for some reason when the page is loaded, the flash bar decides to load the entire swf (music and all) in the background...
Is there a command to make it so that before it starts to load the music you would have to carry out an action[like an onmouseevent]????
Thank you.
todd

Just A Request...
I'd like to get better with Flash 4. I am working on a game, which I have already conceptually designed and begun building graphics for. So far, I have completed the background images, character animations and gathered the sounds that I wish to use, but I do not believe I am ready to handle the task of all the programming without some live interaction. I was wondering if anyone would volunteer their time either through IRC or AIM for consulting on the project. As stated, I have storyboarded almost every aspect of this first person "shooter" and don't see it as being an extremely complex ordeal, but I would be more than happy to give recognition to whomever is able to assist me.

Thanks,
Dan

Request For Help
Hello Everybody,

I am working on my personal web-page and I want to define it’s structure/links in an XML document – it is functioning on my system, but I want to make sure everybody can use it… and I am totally confused about the first Flash Player version that supports XML (I was not able to find a clear statement about it neither on books, nor on Macromedia’s web-site – I am just assuming…)

1. am I supposed to “sniff” for version 5.0.30.0 or later (the first that supports XML)?

2. if version is 5.0.41.0 can I use ignoreWhite (there is no word about it in my Flash 5 ActionScropt Ref. Book)?

3. and if I can, will it ignore the blanks or delete them?

4. what about CR and TAB’s?

thanks,
caius

Big Request
hi all,

i've been playing around with flash and learning the ropes, but i can't grasp the concept of how it all fits together...

what i think would be really helpful is if i could look at a finished movie and see how it's constructed, because i have no idea about what is a movie, and what connects to what else etc...

this is a huge ask, but if someone had an old flash site from anywhere that they could send me to analyse, i would appreciate it so much. I can understand that people don't want their work stolen, but if there is a trusting individual out there with something that would be of use (doesn't have to be good!), i would be very grateful...

thanks
Stuart

(waiting for flames...)

Request
OK, my friend, kyle , needs a funny animation. Instructions below:

Requirements:
-Very serious music playing in the background (i.e terminator theme)
-Replay button
-choice of two songs
NOTE: does not have to have good graphics. Stick figures ARE OK!
-----------------------

Overview:

A man reaches into his cooler (does not have to be a cooler if you can be more creative) and realizes he drank the last beer. He falls to his knees and begins to cry and you can add whatever other drama you want to it (i.e slow motion as he falls to the ground ; The man pounding the ground with his fist and knocking things over)

-------------------------

Deadline: by 2:30 PM 12/15/02
(this may seem early but remember it does not have to have great graphics!)
--------------------------
GOOD LUCK!
-METROID
--------------------
if any questions INSTANT MESSAGE kyle on aim : sora63

Request Help Please.
It would appear that I have gone over my head again, and was wondering if someone could place me in the right direction. I am trying to spruce up the login page on my mail server by using a flash login instead of the ugly two input boxes and login button.

Html code for the mail login page is as follows:

<html>
<head>
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">

</script>
</head>
<body onLoad="mymail_loginpage_onload();" topmargin="0" leftmargin="0">
<form action="http://www.mymail.com/src/redirect.php" method="POST">
<input name="username" value="" size="20">
<input type=password name="key" size="20">
<input type=HIDDEN name="js_auto_results" value="0">
<input type=HIDDEN name="just_log_in" value=1>
<input type=submit value="Login">
</form>
</body>
</html>

This html works very well however as you can see it's mighty dull. In flash I have gotten as far as creating two input text boxes one called username and the other called key (setting 'key' as a password text box). Then creating a button to login. Unfortunately no matter what variables I use to try to get it to do anything or where I've placed the variables it won't work. I'm at the point that the more I do the worse it gets.
If some kind soul could please point me in the right direction of where to place the variables and what need to be assigned to the login button, and what changes to be made to the html code on the new page I would certainly be most grateful. Thanks

A Request
Well, I finished most of my flash movie(thx to mr.shorty for the help) and the only thing i need is dealign with the end credits. Do you guys know where i can get a "Sega font(like in their logo) and the sound where the guys says "Sega" real fast? Plz help. Thx.

Request
I need a (TV) static effect of the size:
670 Width
300 Height

I tried the tutorial on this site, but it didn't really help much. Please, if anyone can help me, I'll do anything! Thanks for any help!

Request For A Nav Tut Or Help
Ok I'm looking for a tut or source file I can check out for a specific type of nav. You've all seen it and I've seen it talked about before on here. It's a vertical menu, let's say 12 buttons, some have submenus. When you rollover one that has a submenu the ones below it automatically slide down to adjust for the submenus height. When you rollout the menus automatically slide back up. If anyone knows a good tut on how to accomplish this effect or has a source file I can check out it would be most graciously appreciated. Thanks everyone.