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Troubleshooting Access Multiple Users


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I maintain the Access databases at the hospital that I work at. Last weekend, our server went down. Computer Services got a new server and reworked the networking permissions. However, Access will no longer allow more than one user to open the database at a time. This is a problem because we always have multiple users that need simultaneous access. The default is still "Open Shared" and I checked to ensure that the databases are not being opened exclusively. However, the message that I do get when a second user tries to open the database is:

The table 'MSysAccessObjects' is already opened exclusively by another user, or it is already open through the user interface and cannot be manipulated programmatically. (Error 3008) -

I understand that this message usually comes up when I try to open a table that is already being edited elsewhere. I have the record locks set to "edited record". However, this is a system file, so I am hesitant to make changes in it unless I know exactly what I am doing. This is a problem that we have never had before but for some reason was created after our server went down. I don't know why something changed or if this table is absolutely necessary. I am unsure where to start to solve the problem.




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