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Apr 9, 2007

I've played with various configurations of the MS SQL Server encryption functionality, and come across an embarrassingly easy question that I cannot seem to resolve. How do I retrieve the actual symmetric and asymmetric keys out of the database?



I'd like to explore the possibility of off-loading the encryption/decryption work from the database server to a load-balanced pool of servers. For this model to work the pool would need access to the keys. The symmetric keys currently are generated with the command...



create symmetric key EncryptionKey211

with algorithm = AES_256

ENCRYPTION BY certificate CreditCardCert



Am I missing something obvious here?

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3.Drop old key.
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here's my code to create the keys:

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Current Server Windows 2000
Destination Server Windows 2003


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Running select * from sys.symmetric_keys on the current server now looks like this:





name
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symmetric_key_id
key_length
key_algorithm
algorithm_desc
create_date
modify_date
key_guid

##MS_DatabaseMasterKey##
1
101
128
D3
TRIPLE_DES
2007-04-23 16:03:09.183
2007-04-23 17:02:46.630
1CB0D800-0173-4A1E-B841-362B454E60AC

HR01
1
256
56
D
DES
2006-11-22 16:36:01.883
2006-11-22 16:36:01.883
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I then restored the new backup onto the 2003 server and ran this script:

OPEN MASTER KEY DECRYPTION BY PASSWORD = 'Password';
ALTER MASTER KEY ADD ENCRYPTION BY SERVICE MASTER KEY;
GO

The alter script now runs fine but I get the error message: The decryption key is incorrect when trying to open the HR01 key




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