Slow Startup Of SSIS Package If Started Using A SQL Server Job
Apr 25, 2007
Hello all,
We have noticed in our environment slowness when starting SSIS packages from SQL Server jobs. I did a quite detailed study on when the slowness actually occurs and what are the consequences. Here are the results.
The SSIS package execution is slow if all the following is true:
The package is started from a job. If started directly as a SSIS package, the execution is fast.
The job is running on a 64 bit Windows Server (SQL Server 2005 SP2). The SSIS package and the job are either on the same server or on different servers (the second server is SQL Server 2005 SP1). If the job is run on a 32-bit workstation (Windows XP SP2) the execution is fast (the SSIS package still being on the server).
The package contains tasks.
§ If there are no tasks, just an empty sequence container, the execution is fast.
§ If a package that has no tasks has logging into the database configured, the execution is fast.
§ Slowness has been verified with A) a package having a single Execute SQL statement and B) a package having a Send Mail task.
It doesn't seem to matter which user account is used on when running the job.
The slowness happens in several locations, e.g. (there are also others, at least the following have been verified)
There is exactly 30 seconds lag between starting the job (as seen from job history) and when PreValidate (as seen in the sysdtslog90 table) of the package appears in the log.
The validation of the package takes 15 seconds (the time difference in the log betwen PreValidate and PackageStart)
The problem is really affecting our production environment. Currently the only solution we have come up is to put all the jobs on a workstation and use the workstation as a production server for the jobs.
I haven't heard anyone else having the same problem.
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Nov 29, 2007
SSIS packages running slow on startup in 64 bit prod env. looks like it is taking lot of time (around 2mins) to validate the package. Delayvalidation is false (default); changing it to true didn't help. Any fix for it?
Executing packages using dtexec commad.
We have job packages which loads 10s of child packages in sequence using package execution task... taking hours to complete. Same are working fine 64 bit dev env.
Prod env:
Windows 2003 SP1
SQL Server 2005 SP2
Thanks
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Hello,
I have designed a quite small SSIS package and everything worked just fine .
Untill I moved the SSIS project folder to another solution folder and added whole solution to Visual source safe.
Since then opening the package for design has become unbelievably slow, debugging it even worse.
I think the cause is in moving the SSIS project folder. But I have no idea how to fix this.
Any suggestions ?
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Hi,
I have created a package that has
2 SQL Execute Task, One Loop container, 2 Data Flow tasks, 1 Foreach loop container, 1 ftp task. The data flow tasks has 1 oledb source, 1 flat file source, 1 row count transformation, 1 recordset destination and 1 oledb destination.
When I load the package into BIDS it takes 125 MB of memory and then everything is slow, the properties panel slides in slowly and exists slowly. The object is the packages are not painted properly. to make changes and run takes lot of time.
Am I doing anything wrong here? Why is it consuming so much of memory?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
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Dec 7, 2000
database : MS SQL server ver 6.50.201
problem: server startup / server time out
details
SQL server shows usage of 100 % CPU utilization, if started automatically / manually. and does not proceed / hangs up(server time out), but win nt operates extremely slow.
The background of the situation in brief is as stated below.
The errorlog was found to have the messages
warning : OPEN OBJECTS parameter may be too low.
Attempt was made to free up descriptors in localdes()
Run sp_configure to increase parameter value.
Error : 644, severity : 21, state; state 1
the non clustered leaf row entry for page 2 row 1 was not found in index page 40 indexid 2 database 'tempdb'
Error : 2620 severity 21 state 3
the offset of the row number at offset 32 does not match the entry in the offset table of the follwoing page : page pointer = 0x1395800, page no= 40, status = 0x2, objectid = 1, indexid = 2
Action taken
I used the sp_option to increase the open objects from default 500 to 1000, and the LE threshold maximum value to 400 from the default 200.
after which I used reconfigure go and restarted the computer to take the effect. The following did work fine and server was working ok. But then from yesterday I am having the problem that the MS SQL sever is utilizing the cpu to 98 - 99 % and I am not able to connect to the server.
I tried to start the server with the minimal configuration by specifying the -f option in the service manager start up options, it showed the following message
00/12/07 10:40:49.73 ods Unable to connect. The maximum number of '5' configured user connections are already connected. System Administrator can configure to a higher value with sp_configure.
00/12/07 10:40:50.02 ods Unable to connect. The maximum number of '5' configured user connections are already connected. System Administrator can configure to a higher value with sp_configure.
afterwhich I tried with the option of starting the sql server with the option -c -f
which in the event detail of the win nt shows
"mesg 18109: Recovery dbid 6 ckpt(55813,8) oldest tras= (55813,0)"
The open procedure for service "MSSQLServer" in DLL "SQLCTR60.DLL" has taken longer than the established wait time to complete. The wait time in milliseconds is shown in the data.
DB-LIBRARY error - SQL Server connection timed out.
and in the errorlog present in MSSQLLOG directory
00/12/07 15:06:43.24 spid1 Recovering Database 'master'
00/12/07 15:06:43.31 spid1 Recovery dbid 1 ckpt (7944,28) oldest tran=(7944,0)
00/12/07 15:06:43.41 spid1 1 transactions rolled forward
00/12/07 15:06:43.49 spid1 Activating disk 'AM'
00/12/07 15:06:43.49 kernel initializing virtual device 1, D:MSSQLDATAAM.DAT
00/12/07 15:06:43.50 spid1 Activating disk 'AMLOG'
00/12/07 15:06:43.50 kernel initializing virtual device 2, D:MSSQLDATAAMLOG.DAT
The dbid is / was 6 for both the instances, the database which is having this dbid is database name "AM" and is having above 1300 tables (approx)
what could be the problem and solution for it?
kindly help me out of this situation.
If any more information is needed please contact me on devendrakulkarni@yahoo.com / devendra@me.iitb.ernet.in
Regards
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Aug 9, 2006
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shown up going into production. The first package I deployed ran significantly
slower on the production server, going from about 7 seconds to 90 seconds. The
production server is much more powerful, so this was rather confusing. The
major difference is that the server is running 64 bit.
After searching around, I haven't found much that is helpful. To test things
out, I created a blank package that does absolutely nothing. All it contains is
a single connection manager (OLE DB). Executing this package takes 45 seconds.
If I remove the connection manager, it executes in 0.1 seconds. Setting
DelayValidation to TRUE has no effect. If the connection is to a nonexistent
server, or if an incorrect login is used, the execution time is still 45
seconds. Adding a second connection manager increases execution time to 75
seconds. The package runs on my local computer in 0.1 seconds.
Any ideas what could be going on here? I can€™t believe that
no one would have seen an issue like this. Is there some sort of strange
configuration issue going on here?
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Does the installation of SP2 remove this authentication restriction?
...cordell...
Problem Description Reference Documents:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/918644
http://connect.microsoft.com/SQLServer/feedback/ViewFeedback.aspx?FeedbackID=124887.
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Mar 20, 2006
[Yes, I know I keep posting this, and I'm sorry for that. But I want someone to confirm that this is a bug and not by design. I feel it is very very important]
All,
I'd like someone from MS to confirm something for me if possible.
I've just come across a situation where a package that is restarted from a checkpoint fails to execute any of its eventhandlers if those eventhandlers are scoped to a parent container.
Is this a bug or by design? Either way I'm VERY worried about this because this is not in the least bit intuitive. This is the most dangerous bug that I have seen in RTM.
-Jamie
If you want a demo of this happening then download this package: http://blogs.conchango.com/Admin/ImageGallery/blogs.conchango.com/jamie.thomson/20060103Package1.zip
It doesn't need any configuration because there are no connection managers. You can just run it standalone.
Run it first time and it will fail but you WILL see msgboxes popped up by the eventhandlers. Go into "Script Task 2" and make the return value "Success" rather than "Failure".
Run it a second time. The package will complete successfully but NO msgboxes will pop up from the eventhandlers. They are not executing.
Reply here or email direct with any queries!
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Hi All,
I am trying to import data from flat file to sql server 2005 DB table using SSIS. There are 4 different text files in the input folder. I am using for loop to iterate reading and importing 4 times. In order to do this I have set "Connection String" property of a connection manager to a package level variable using expression. There is a script which supplies the source file name and assigns to this variable.
The package works fine. The data gets imported successfully into the destination table. However, when I close the package, reopen it and then run, the Data Flow task fails with the error "Can not open the source file". If I enter a valid file name in the Flat File Source task and run the package it works again. As soon as I close the file/package, reopen and then run, the data flow task fails with the same error.
How do I make this working. I am planning to schedule a job which will execute the package programatically. In that case no user intevention is possible.
I would appreciate your help on this. I can provide further details if required.
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Mar 2, 2006
All,
I'd like someone from MS to confirm something for me if possible.
I've just come across a situation where a package that is restarted from a checkpoint fails to execute any of its eventhandlers if those eventhandlers are scoped to a parent container.
Is this a bug or by design? Either way I'm VERY worried about this because this is not in the least bit intuitive. This is the most dangerous bug that I have seen in RTM.
-Jamie
If you want a demo of this happening then download this package: http://blogs.conchango.com/Admin/ImageGallery/blogs.conchango.com/jamie.thomson/20060103Package1.zip
It doesn't need any configuration because there are no connection managers. You can just run it standalone.
Run it first time and it will fail but you WILL see msgboxes popped up by the eventhandlers. Go into "Script Task 2" and make the return value "Success" rather than "Failure".
Run it a second time. The package will complete successfully but NO msgboxes will pop up from the eventhandlers. They are not executing.
Reply here or email direct with any queries!
[Microsoft follow-up] This needs either fixing or explaining.
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OK. I am new to SSIS. I do not have control over the servers, so I have to provide a list of what features we need installed and such.
In order to use SSIS to import data files (from multiple flat file sources), what do I need installed?
I have SQL Server 2005 installed on a server. But the Business Intelligence Development Studio isn't present. Do I need to install that on the server? How about any services?
Also, can I/Should I install Business Intelligence Development Studio on my local development machine? What about licensing requirements for it?
Thank you for your help in this matter. Usually I have full control over the server and I can just poke through the install to get what I need.
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I created a project in Business Solutions (I tried multiple times) - The idea of the project is to download a flat file from FTP, then pull the records into a table. I can get this to work without issue *IF* I execute this process by hand.
However, I would like to execute the project via a stored procedure. I am using
exec master..xp_cmdshell 'dtexec /F C:ssisew_package.dtsx'
My last version of the package just has the FTP download in it (I was trying to break it down to small steps) - when executing I get an error
" Description: Failed to decrypt protected XML node "DTS:Property" with error 0x8009000B "Key not valid for use in specified state.". You may not be authorized to access this information. This error occurs when there is a cryptographic error. Verify that..."
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[VS 2005]
I have a mixed solution with a C# project and an SSIS project. Now matter how many times I set the C# project as the startup project, it seems that as soon as I make a change to the SSIS package, it decides that it's so unbelievably important that it HAS to be the startup project. Is there any way to disable this?
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Dec 14, 2007
hi~
our system to run the the job with SSIS package is slower than DTS package.
The SSIS package action is the same as DTS package.
Why?
What do I take care??
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Dec 6, 2007
Hi there
We have a SSIS run which runs as follows
The master package has a configuration file, specifying the connect strings
The master package passes these connect-strings to the child packages in a variable
Both master package and child packages have connection managers, setup to use localhost. This is done deliberately to be able to test the packages on individual development pc€™s.
We do not want to change anything inside the packages when deploying to test, and from test to production. All differences will be in the config files (which are pretty fixed, they very seldom change). That way we can be sure that we can deploy to production without any changes at all.
The package is run from the file system, through a job-schedule.
We experience the following when running on a not default sql-server instance (called dkms5253uedw)
Case 1:
The master package starts by executing three sql-scripts (drop foreign key€™s, truncate tables, create foreign key€™s). This works fine.
The master package then executes the first child package. We then in the sysdtslog get:
Error - €œcannot connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
The child package then executes OK, does all it€™s work, and finish. Because there has been an error, the master package then stops with an error.
Case 2:
When we run exactly the same, but with the connection strings in the config file pointing to the default instance (dkms5253), the everything works fine.
Case 3:
When we run exactly the same, again against the dkms5253uedw instance, but now with the exact same databases defined in the default instance, it also works perfect.
Case 4:
When we then stop the sql-server on the default instance, the package faults again, this time with
Error - €œtimeout when connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
And the continues as in the first case
From all this we conclude, that the child package tries to connect to the database before it knows the connection string it gets passed in the variable from the master package. It therefore tries to connect to the default instance, and this only works if the default instance is running and has the same databases defined. As far as we can see, the child package does no work against the default instance (no logging etc.).
We have tried delayed validation in the packages and in the connection managers, but with the same results (error).
So we are desperately hoping that someone can help us solve this problem.
Thanx,
/Nils M - Copenhagen
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