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Why I Got The Message As You Need To Create The Many-to-one Relationship Between The Case Table And The Nested Table?


Hi, all experts here,

 

Thank you very much for your kind attention.

 

I am trying to create a new mining structure with case table and nested table, the case table (fact table) has alread defined the relationships with the nested table(dimension table), and I can see their relationship from the data source view. But why the wizard for creating the new mining structure showed that message? Why is that? And what could I try to fix it?

Hope it is clear for your help.

Thanks a lot for your kind advices and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.

With best regards,

Yours sincerely,

 


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