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Stop Title Bar Mouse Dragging


Hello Folks,
i am new to this forum but i have a problem which i have researched but failed.
I have disabled my applications titlebar,maximise button. But the title bar actually docks itself in a restored state and yet i wanted it maximised so that no one would drag it over the screen as this happens when its in a restored state.

How can i be able to disable the Mouse Click move titlebar(or application window) action.
Thanks in advance.




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- A label control array within a picturebox. The label control array
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- be dragged past either end of the picturebox, making the label
- control array not usable.

Here's what I need:
- To be able to have the label control array stop from being
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Private Type EVENTMSG
message As Long
paramL As Long
paramH As Long
time As Long
hwnd As Long
End Type

Private Type POINTAPI
x As Long
y As Long
End Type

Private Type MSG
hwnd As Long
message As Long
wParam As Long
lParam As Long
time As Long
pt As POINTAPI
End Type

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Private Declare Function SetWindowsHookEx Lib "user32" Alias "SetWindowsHookExA" (ByVal idHook As Long, ByVal lpfn As Long, ByVal hmod As Long, ByVal dwThreadId As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function UnhookWindowsHookEx Lib "user32" (ByVal hHook As Long) As Long
Private Declare Function CallNextHookEx Lib "user32" (ByVal hHook As Long, ByVal nCode As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, lParam As Any) As Long
Private Declare Function SetCursorPos Lib "user32" (ByVal x As Long, ByVal y As Long) As Long
Private Declare Sub Sleep Lib "kernel32" (ByVal dwMilliseconds As Long)

Private Const WH_JOURNALRECORD = 0
Private Const WH_JOURNALPLAYBACK = 1

Private Const HC_GETNEXT = 1
Private Const HC_SKIP = 2

Private Const WH_GETMESSAGE = 3
Private Const WH_CALLWNDPROC = 4

Private Const WM_CANCELJOURNAL = &H4B
Private Const WM_MOUSEMOVE = &H200

Private lHookID As Long
Private lAppHookID As Long

Private tEventList() As EVENTMSG
Private tEVENTMSG As EVENTMSG
Private lMsgCount As Long
Private lMsgCountMax As Long
Public sDat As String


Public Sub RecordMouse()
'Record the Mouse Events
If lHookID <> 0 Then Exit Sub
lMsgCountMax = 0
lMsgCount = 0
ReDim tEventList(0)
'Set an application hook to monitor for messages sent to this app
lAppHookID = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_GETMESSAGE, AddressOf GetMessageProc, App.hInstance, App.ThreadID)

'Set the Journal Hook to allow us to record all Mouse Movements
lHookID = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_JOURNALRECORD, AddressOf JournalRecordProc, 0&, 0&)

Debug.Print "Recording..."
End Sub

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'Stop Recording the Mouse Events
If lHookID <> 0 Or lAppHookID <> 0 Then
Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lAppHookID)
Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lHookID)
lHookID = 0
lAppHookID = 0
Debug.Print "Recording Stopped - " & lMsgCountMax & " messages recorded."
End If
End Sub

Public Sub PlayBackMouse()
'Playback the Journal Recorded with JournalRecord
If lHookID <> 0 Then Exit Sub
lMsgCount = 1
tEVENTMSG = tEventList(1)
'Set an application hook to monitor for messages sent to this app
lAppHookID = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_GETMESSAGE, AddressOf GetMessageProc, App.hInstance, App.ThreadID)
lHookID = SetWindowsHookEx(WH_JOURNALPLAYBACK, AddressOf JournalPlaybackProc, 0&, 0&)
Debug.Print "Playing..."
End Sub

Public Sub PlayBackMouseStop()
'Stop Journal Playback
If lHookID <> 0 Or lAppHookID <> 0 Then
Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lAppHookID)
Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lHookID)
lHookID = 0
lAppHookID = 0
Debug.Print "Playback Stopped."
End If
End Sub

Private Function GetMessageProc(ByVal Code As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long
Dim tMSG As MSG

If Code < 0 Then
'Pass the message along...
GetMessageProc = CallNextHookEx(lAppHookID, Code, wParam, ByVal lParam)
Else
'Grab the MSG structure
CopyMemory tMSG, ByVal lParam, Len(tMSG)
Select Case tMSG.message

Case WM_CANCELJOURNAL
'An external process has requested us to stop this operation
Call UnhookWindowsHookEx(lHookID)
lHookID = 0

End Select
End If
End Function

Private Function JournalRecordProc(ByVal Code As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByVal lParam As Long) As Long
On Error GoTo LogError
If Code < 0 Then

'Pass this message along...
JournalRecordProc = CallNextHookEx(lHookID, Code, wParam, ByVal lParam)

Else

'Grab the Event Message Structure
CopyMemory tEVENTMSG, ByVal lParam, Len(tEVENTMSG)

'Only record MOUSE_MOVE events
If tEVENTMSG.message = WM_MOUSEMOVE Then
lMsgCountMax = lMsgCountMax + 1
ReDim Preserve tEventList(lMsgCountMax)
tEventList(lMsgCountMax) = tEVENTMSG
End If
JournalRecordProc = 0

End If

Exit Function

LogError:
Debug.Print "Error in JournalRecordProc()"
End Function

Private Function JournalPlaybackProc(ByVal Code As Long, ByVal wParam As Long, ByRef lParam As Long) As Long
Dim iX As Integer, iY As Integer, lTime As Long
On Error GoTo LogError

Select Case Code

Case HC_SKIP

'Select the Next Event Message
lMsgCount = lMsgCount + 1
If lMsgCount >= lMsgCountMax Then
'Last Message processed, so remove the Journal Hook
PlayBackMouseStop
Else
tEVENTMSG = tEventList(lMsgCount)
End If
JournalPlaybackProc = 0

Case HC_GETNEXT

'Grab the Event Message Structure and Process the Message
lParam = VarPtr(tEVENTMSG)
With tEVENTMSG
If .message = WM_MOUSEMOVE Then
iX = .paramL
iY = .paramH
'Pause time for processing lag (calculated as time between this and prev. message)
lTime = (.time - tEventList(lMsgCount - 1).time) - 7
'Pause can't be less than 0
If lTime < 0 Then lTime = 0
'Move the Cursor accordingly
SetCursorPos iX, iY
'If this isn't the 1st message pause before processing the next message
If lMsgCount > 1 Then
Sleep lTime
End If
End If
End With

Case Else

'Pass this message along...
JournalPlaybackProc = CallNextHookEx(lHookID, Code, wParam, ByVal lParam)
Exit Function

End Select

Exit Function

LogError:
Debug.Print "Error in JournalPlaybackProc():" & Err.Description, lMsgCount, lMsgCountMax
End Function

Public Sub SaveEvents(ByVal sFilename As String, ByRef tEventArray() As EVENTMSG)
Dim iFile As Integer
Dim lIndex As Long

If Len(Dir(sFilename)) Then Kill sFilename
iFile = FreeFile
Open sFilename For Random Access Write As iFile
For lIndex = LBound(tEventArray) To UBound(tEventArray)
Put #iFile, , tEventArray(lIndex)
Next
Close iFile
End Sub

Public Sub LoadEvents(ByVal sFilename As String, ByRef tEventArray() As EVENTMSG)
Dim iFile As Integer
Dim lIndex As Long

If FileLen(sFilename) = 0 Then Exit Sub
iFile = FreeFile
Open sFilename For Random Access Read As iFile
While Not EOF(iFile)
ReDim Preserve tEventArray(lIndex)
Get #iFile, , tEventArray(lIndex)
lIndex = lIndex + 1
Wend
Close iFile
End Sub

Public Sub SaveTheEvents()
Call SaveEvents("C:Events.dat", tEventList)
End Sub

Public Sub LoadTheEvents()
Call LoadEvents(sDat, tEventList)
lMsgCountMax = UBound(tEventList)
End Sub

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First I Tell you what i want to do...
I have two form Form1 and Form2. Form2 is loaded prog. from Form1 and is shown as vbmodeless and Form1 as its parent.
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Dim lDC As Long
lDC = GetWindowDC(0)
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If I use DragMode: automatic, seems the GotFocus is not working.

What I try to do is like VB IDE, drag an object and put into another container.

Besides, I also need to draw the 6 small squares to allow user to resize.

I tried to use DragMode:Manual, but then for ComboBox, I cannot trap mouseevent like MouseDown etc !!

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I'm having a problem with the following code and I need a tip or workaround:

Dim OldX As Single
Dim OldY As Single
Private Sub Form_DragDrop(Source As Control, X As Single, Y As Single)
Source.Left = X - OldX
Source.Top = Y - OldY
End Sub

Private Sub Picture1_MouseDown(Button As Integer, Shift As Integer, X As Single, Y As Single)
If Button = 1 Then
OldX = X
OldY = Y
Picture1.Drag
End If

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When I click on my label, the drag box comes up but when I release it the label stays in the original place, help !

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Hello and Good day to all. Thanks for any replies to this post!

I was wondering if it is possible to enable a drag and drop method for an sstab. What i would like it to do (the app) is allow users to drag 1 of the sstabs outside of the program area and once the mouse is release, the window will act as its own independent form. For example:

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When the user clicks and Drags Tab1, they drag it outside of the main form..(so the mouse if over the desktop for example). When they release the mouse button Tab1 becomes its own form, and is independent of the main form. So if the original was closed, Tab1 would not be.

Like so:

__Tab1__________________


And this is to apply to each SSTAB.

Not sure how one would go about accomplishing this.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks again for view and/or replying to this post.

Much appreciated!

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