Logistic Regression Question

Feb 14, 2008

Hi All,

We're currently preparing for a project for a bank client of ours where we would be using SQL Server 2008's data mining capabilities.


Does anyone know if logistic regression supports the following types:


Binomial (standard)

Multinomial (standard)

Conditional

Ordered

Rank-ordered

Nested

Stereotype
Regards,
Joseph

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Hello,



This question is regarding the LogRegHelper - "A scorecard for Logistic Regression models" example in sqlserverdatamining Tips and Tricks page. I launched TestLogReg (Analysis Services Database associated with the project) and ran Logistic Regression over that. While the LogReg shows the highest score for IQ (107 - 121), a score of 558, the Logistic Regression shows that Parent Encouragement has the highest score for the case College Plans = 'Plans to Attend'. Can someone verify this and clarify?



I have a few other questions with LR



- In SQL Server 2005 LR Mining Model Viewer "favors" chart, what algorithm is used for generating Scores?



- Can I use this score as a feature selector? Higher score => stronger predictor (input)



- Is the coefficient weight algorithm used in LogReg wrong ?



Thanks



MA

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Code Snippet

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//
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//
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}
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Code Snippet

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