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Jun 13, 2000

ok people, this is getting seriously frustrating! Please help!

As mentioned in a previous post, one of my batch jobs is printing fields with padding added, even when
the table column is defined as varchar.

I've been to the knowledge base, read the article on ansi padding, ran the test scripts.
But when I ran the select to display the columns,
THE OUTPUT FOR BOTH TABLES WAS IDENTICAL!!!
Apparently the SET ANSI_PADDING ON/OFF option had no effect!

What am i doing wrong? What is missing? Do i have to run the Set Ansi Padding option in the Master DB
context? Have I unknowingly overridden the option somewhere else? Must I brush up on my COBOL
for a career change?

HELP!

fjw

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Hi,

This might sound obvious, or a newbie question, but how are trailing blanks treated by SQL2005 on varchar columns?

I have a column where two rows only differ by a trailing blank. If write a select and a where clause on the column, anly trailing blanks seem to be trimmed. I tried the ansi padding setting but it doesn't change anything. Is it a question of collation? I have default collation on the server set to SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS...

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GO

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charcol CHAR(16) NULL,

varcharcol VARCHAR(16) NULL,

varbinarycol VARBINARY(8)

);

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INSERT INTO t1 VALUES ('Trailing blank ', 'Trailing blank', 0x00ee00);

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varbinarycol

FROM t1

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GO

SELECT 'CHAR' = '>' + charcol + '<', 'VARCHAR'='>' + varcharcol + '<',

varbinarycol

FROM t1

where varcharcol='Trailing blank ';

GO

PRINT 'Testing with ANSI_PADDING OFF';

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GO

CREATE TABLE t2 (

charcol CHAR(16) NULL,

varcharcol VARCHAR(16) NULL,

varbinarycol VARBINARY(8)

);

GO

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INSERT INTO t2 VALUES ('Trailing blank ', 'Trailing blank', 0x00ee00);

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SELECT 'CHAR' = '>' + charcol + '<', 'VARCHAR'='>' + varcharcol + '<',

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GO

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Code Block
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Code Block
CREATE TABLE dbo.tblConfiguration
(
ServerName VARCHAR(30) NOT NULL,
Component VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
Context VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
Property VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL,
CONSTRAINT PK_tblConfiguration PRIMARY KEY NONCLUSTERED( ServerName, Component, Context, Property ),
Value VARCHAR(255) NOT NULL
)




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SQLEDEV1 AdjProcessUtility ExtractAdjFile Schedule 2,3,4,5,6
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SQLEDEV1 AdjProcessUtility ExtractAdjFile WriteTempTable Y

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SQLEDEV1 AdjProcessUtility ValidationReport Schedule 2,3,4,5,6
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