Alternative To Identity Help.

Aug 20, 2007




I have a SSIS package that imports an Excel file using Visual Basic 2005 into my SQL 2005 database. All the fields are the same in the DB and xls. The package runs with no problem but I need one of the fields to be autoincrement. I tried to set up the properties of one of my fields "ID" to be an Identity. This didn't seem to work at all. There are about 1300 records in the DB so far with the last "ID" number being 10001415. Before now, the numbers were inputed manually. I want the "ID" to be assigned when the SSIS package imports the xls file.


Any help is very appreciated.

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Original:ID = MyDataLayer.Execute("INSERT INTO X(a,b,c) VALUES(A,B,C); SELECT @@IDENTITY")
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