Flat File To Table - Rows Out Of Order

Jun 12, 2007

Hi,



I noticed something strange today. I created a pkg that reads a flat file and writes the rows to a table.



In checking the data in the file against what's in the table, I noticed that the rows were inserted in a different order than they are in the file.



All the rows appear to be in the table correctly, but they're just not in the same order as in the file. I've never seen this before. But I checked very carefully, and this is indeed the case.



Is this normal??



Thanks

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Code Snippet
Record Length 400

Positions Length FieldName

Record Type 01
1,2 L=2 Record Type (Always "01")
3,12 L=10 Site Name
13,19 L=7 Account Number
20,29 L=10 Sub Account
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36,37 L=1 Active
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Record Type 05
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Code Snippet
01Site1 12345 0000098765 Y 02NY1155 12th Street 03ELL 0522071678 29 04TestingSmith,Paul071678 05Smith, Jane 445978N 05Smith, Julie 445989N 05Smith, Jenny 445915N 01Site2 12346 0000098766 N 02MN615 Woodland Ct 04InfoJones,Chris 012001 01Site3 12347 0000098767 Y 02IN89 Jade Street 03OWB 6429051282 25 04Screen New,Katie 879500





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