Major Problem With @@IDENTITY, Treeview And GUID

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Hi,





I'm trying to insert data into locally stored database (SQL Server).


The data I want inserted, is presented in a Treeview control and the data is fetched from a Webservice. The data is returned in form of a dataset.


The treeview contains checkboxes allowing a user to select what to install in the locally stored database.





To sum up:








1. Get data from a webservice' not my problem


2. Present data in a Treview control' not my problem


3. Allow to user to select which data to install' not my problem


4. Insert data that the user has selected into my db' MY PROBLEM!!!!








The Treeview looks like this.





- Group1


| | ---- Rule1.1


| | ---- Rule1.2


|


- Group2


| | ---- Rule2.1


| | ---- Rule2.2


| | ---- Rule2.3





.....








The Treeview is generated with DataRelations between Group and Rule.





My locally stored database is designed by a third party provider and therefore the database must not be altered.


The table I want to store data in is called "Groups" and it looks like this:








GroupID uniqueidentifier ' (newid())


GroupName nvarchar(50)


ParentGroupID uniqueidentifier' if grouptype = 0 then ParentGroupID must have a value.


GroupType tinyint ' 0 = subgroup, 1 = "top"group





Data in the table "Groups" would look like this:





GroupID GroupNameParentGroupIDGroupType


---------------------------------------------------------


{000001...}Group1<NULL>1


{000011...}Rule1.1{000001...}0


{000012...}Rule1.2{000001...}0


{000002...}Group2<NULL>1


{000021...}Rule2.1{000002...}0


{000022...}Rule2.2{000002...}0


{000023...}Rule2.3{000002...}0











The third party also created a stored procedure called pr_AddGroup taking the following parameters:





@GroupName ' can be both the RuleName and the GroupName


@GroupType ' can be 0 for subgroup or 1 for "top"group


@ParentGroup ' GUID








The problem with this stored procedure is that it does not have return value, which is here my problem actually lies.


If it returned @@IDENTITY I could use this as the parameter for @ParentGroup.


Instead I figure I must create two sqlCommand's (one calling pr_AddGroup and another calling SELECT @@IDENTITY to get the newly created record).





My SQL Commands look like this





Dim cmd As SqlCommand


Dim Conn As SqlConnection = New SqlConnection


Conn.ConnectionString = "Data Source=myServer;Initial Catalog=myTable;Integrated Security=SSPI"


cmd = New SqlCommand


cmd.CommandType = CommandType.StoredProcedure


cmd.Connection = Conn


cmd.CommandText = "pr_AddGroup"





cmd.Parameters.Add(New SqlParameter("@GroupName", SqlDbType.NVarChar, 50, ParameterDirection.Input))


cmd.Parameters.Add(New SqlParameter("@GroupType", SqlDbType.TinyInt, ParameterDirection.Input))


cmd.Parameters.Add(New SqlParameter("@ParentGroup", SqlDbType.UniqueIdentifier, ParameterDirection.Input))





dim cmd2 as SqlCommand


cmd2 = new SqlCommand


cmd2.commandtype = commandtype.Text


cmd2.commandtext = "SELECT @@IDENTITY as ID FROM Groups"


cmd2.connection = Conn





dim ParentGroupGUID as system.guid








To get the data inserted in the Groups table I would something like the following, but the code is very ugly


(and it doesn't work either);





For Each Group In TreeView1.Nodes ' Loop through Groups


If Group.Checked Then


cmd.Parameters("@GroupName").Value = Group.Text.ToString


cmd.Parameters("@GroupType").Value = 1





cmd.ExecuteNonQuery()


ParentGroupGUID = cmd2.executescalar()





End If





For Each Rule In Group.Nodes ' Loop through Rules.


If Rule.Checked Then


cmd.Parameters("@GroupName").Value = Group.Text.ToString


cmd.Parameters("@GroupType").Value = 1


cmd.Parameters("@ParentGroup").value = ParentGroupGUID


cmd.ExecuteNonquery()


End If


Next


Next








I've spent the last 5 hours figuring out this problem, so ANY help is appreciated :-)

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.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.

To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.

1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.

2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!

3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?



TIA,



Barkingdog

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Jun 30, 2006

I want to insert a new record into a table with an Identity field and return the new Identify field value back to the data stream (for later insertion as a foreign key in another table).

What is the most direct way to do this in SSIS?



TIA,



barkingdog



P.S. Or should I pass the identity value back in a variable and not make it part of the data stream?

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