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2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Microsoft SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.3042.00 (X64)
Feb 10 2007 00:59:02
Copyright (c) 1988-2005 Microsoft Corporation
Standard Edition (64-bit) on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: Service Pack 2)
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server (c) 2005 Microsoft Corporation.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server All rights reserved.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Server process ID is 3264.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Authentication mode is MIXED.
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2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Registry startup parameters:
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2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server -e D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLLOGERRORLOG
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2007-09-11 13:19:32.00 Server Attempting to recover in-doubt distributed transactions involving Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MS DTC). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
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2007-09-11 13:19:32.09 spid5s SQL Trace ID 1 was started by login "sa".
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2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid5s Server name is 'SS02'. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
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2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17207, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen: Operating system error 5(Access is denied.) occurred while creating or opening file 'J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData'. Diagnose and correct the operating system error, and retry the operation.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17204, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen failed: Could not open file J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData for file number 1. OS error: 5(Access is denied.).
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 5120, Severity: 16, State: 101.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Unable to open the physical file "J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData". Operating system error 5: "5(Access is denied.)".
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17207, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen: Operating system error 5(Access is denied.) occurred while creating or opening file 'I:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData'. Diagnose and correct the operating system error, and retry the operation.
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