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Hi all,

I've worked with informix for a very long time and this is my first aproach to sql server. I have an extremely simple design for a "small" database and at this moment I'm creating the tables, in informix I can assign a first extent and next extent size to the creation of the table so if your volume and growth analisys is good you can basically be sure that you will allways have contigous space on disk for your table. I'm readin BOL to see if I have that feature here but can't seem to find anything similar. Does that mean that my table data will be "fragmented" all over the primary and secondary files every time I load into them? Would it be a good practice to simulate the extents by creating a secondary file for each table with the size I require?

Any coments will be greatly appreciated :)

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