Restore A Point Between Two Full Backups
Oct 23, 2015
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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Oct 23, 2015
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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Oct 23, 2015
I make two full backups on Oct 1 and Oct 10. I want to restore the server to a state in Oct 5. So I just do as follows:
1.Perform a transaction log backup on the server on Oct 23. I have never backup transaction log in the past.
2. Restore the server with Oct 1 full backup with NORECOVERY option.
3.Try to restore to the point at Oct 5 12:00, with the transaction log.
But the restore fails and SQL Server said the transaction log does not contain the point. The point is too early. Why? Also my .LDF file is about 13G, but the transaction log backup is only 200MB. Why?
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Oct 27, 2007
Greetings, All -
Is it possible to restore to a point in time without a preexisting full backup? The situation is this:
I have a table in the DB from which an unknown number of records were accidentally deleted. The table in questio has about 2 million records; the user ran a query to delete all records from the table by accident, and cancelled the query after about 3 seconds.
The DB recovery mode is full, so I should be able to do a point in time restore to go back to just before the deletion, but unfortunately, the DB has never been backed up, so I have no backup to work from.
The DB has not been used since the incident, and is otherwise operational, but I need to recover these records if at all possible. All the instructions I've seen for this involve restoring from a full backup first, then restoring the log backup second. Is there any way for me to accomplish the same task?
Mark Faulcon
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Jul 23, 2005
Database is OK. I just need to roll back all the transactions until certainpoint in time. How to do it?
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Mar 26, 2008
Hello all,
First off, I appreciate the time that those of you reading and responding to this request are offering. My quesiton is a theoretical and hopefully simple one, and yet I have been unable to find an answer to it on other searches or sources.
Here's the situation. I am working with SQL Server 2005 on a Windows Server 2003 machine. I have a series of databases, all of which are in Full recovery mode, using a backup device for the full database backups and a separate device for the log backups. The full backups are run every four days during non-business hours. The log backups are run every half hour.
Last week, one of my coworkers found that some rarely-used data was unavailable, and wanted to restore a database to a point in time where the data was available. He told me that point in time was some time back in November.
To accomplish this, I restored the database (in a separate database, as to not overwrite my production database) using the Point in Time Recovery option. I selected November from the "To a point in time" window (I should note that this window is always grey, never white like most active windows, it seems), and the full database backup and the subsequent logs all became available in the "Select the backup sets to restore" window.
I then tried a bevy of different options from the "Options" screen. However, every restore succeeds (ie: it doesn't error out), but seems to be bringing the database back to a current point in time. It's never actually going back to the point in time I specify.
My questions are as follows:
a) Is it possible to do a point in time recovery to a point in time BEFORE the last full database backup?
b) If so, what options would you recommend I use? (ie: "Overwrite the existing database", restore with recovery, etc etc).
I again appreciate any and all advice I receive, and I look forward to hearing from anyone and everyone on this topic. Thank you.
Ryan
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Nov 15, 2015
The space allocated to the Log in question is 180 GB. During this time period I was running TLog backups every 5 minutes, yet the log continued to chew through to 80 GB used, even after the process was complete and a final TLog backup had been taken. It continued to stay very large until the Full backup was complete -- or something else that I'm unaware of completed. Like every other DBA I typically take a TLog backup to shrink the log, but what appeared to be the case here was the Full completed and it released the used log space. All said, will Transaction Log backups not free up the log during Full backups?
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Dec 31, 2014
In Windows Server 2012. How do I do a System Restore to a previous restore point?I need to install the 64 bit and 32 bit Oracle Client Install for connections in SSIS and to create Oracle Linked Servers.
If you make a mistake it is not fun removing it. Sometimes it corrupts the machine and it is difficult to uninstall since there is not an Oracle Universal installer for Oracle 11g.If you install the 32 bit before the 64 you mess up the machine.how to create a restore point.
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Nov 25, 2014
On one of our SQL Server 2014 boxes each database has a copy-only full backup made every night, in addition to the maintenance plan schedule of a full backup weekly, daily differential backups and log backups.
When performing a PIT restore in SSMS the restore file list lists the most recent copy-only backup as the full backup to use, not the most recent plan full backup. I noticed that using SSMS 2008 to start a PIT restore on the 2014 box does not have this problem, and lists the correct restore file sequence (ignores the copy-only backups).
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Dec 8, 1999
I can't "point in time restore" a test DB if I had only a Full DB Backup (with overwrite option).
Example
12:00 Fullbackup new (overwrite)
12:01 update any rows
12:02 update any rows
12:03 delete any rows
12:05 Transaction Log backup (overwrite)
RESTORE: We can't set "point in Time" to 12:01 od 12:02 ???
why
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Mar 13, 2000
Hi
1. could any one explain point in time recovery.
2. Problem we had was the database froze 'inload' while doing transaction restore. Is there any way to recover this
regards
rajeev
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Nov 26, 2004
My database is in full recovery mode. When I have created some full backups of the database, I would like try to point in time restore. Unfortunately, this option is greyed out on the restore screen. What have I done wrong?
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Jan 31, 2014
I know NOTHING about SQL. I have a SQL 2005 database. I'm trying to restore a point in time. I get the error:
RESTORE FAILED...AMT12-2-13.TRN... CANNOT FIND THE FILE SPECIFIED.
The file exists, and in the proper location. something is wrong with it. Is there any way to rebuild the entire TRN so that a point in time recovery will work?
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Nov 7, 2007
I have a SQLServer 2005 database running in Windows 2003 Advanced Server environment. I want to restore from the backup to 2 days back point in time. I am using the Microsoft SQLServer Managment Studio. After I pick the file and specify the time I keep getting the error:
System.Data.SqlClient.SqlError: RESTORE cannot process database 'DBNAME' because it is in use by this session. It is recommended that the master database be used when performing this operation. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
I did a server reboot to clear off any hanging session.Stil I am getting the message. Please suggest.
Thanks
R
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Jul 20, 2005
I have full backup of database at 13:00and another full backup at 17:00.I've made backup of transaction log at 17:05When I try to restore database to state at15:10 (point in time) , the dialogue in Enterprise Managersays that only time after 17:05 is valid.It seems to me that I've done something wrong at 17:05 while takingtrans. log backup.But, again, if I have full backups at 13:00 and 17:00 restoringdatabase to point in time at 15:10 should be possible ?!Any help is appreciated.Pagus
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Nov 7, 2007
I have a SQLServer 2005 database. I want to restore from the backup to 2 days back point in time. I am using the Microsoft SQLServer Managment Studio. After I pick the file and specify the time I keep getting the error:
[System.Data.SqlClient.SqlError: RESTORE cannot process database 'DBNAME' because it is in use by this session. It is recommended that the master database be used when performing this operation. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
I did a server reboot to clear off any hanging session.Stil I am getting the message. Please suggest.
Thanks
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Mar 2, 2002
Hello,
I have lost a table's contents and need to restore them urgently. I backed up the database. I selected the backup set in order to restore it, but the "Point in time restore " was disabled and I couldn't select it to set the time to which to restore.Could anyone tell me the reason behing that?
Another interesting thing is that when I backup a database, I only have two options for backing it up,
1. database complete
2. database differential
Thanks a lot,
Joe
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Nov 28, 2007
I have full Recovery mode.
I just accidently deleted a handful of records out of a table about 10 minutes ago. My last backup was last night.
Can I go back 10 minutes ago for a specific table? If so how... DO I need to backup now, then use the trans-logs to recover up to a specific point?
Thanks!!
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Mar 16, 2008
hi all!
can you help me, in which case will i need to Specify a Point in Time, when restoring a database?
for newbee like me, it looks like it's better to restore without Specifying a Point in Time, because i will restore my data, without headache.
can you give me some sort of example when and why to specifying a point in time?
thank you 1000x in advance!
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Jul 20, 2005
In the hereunder written message I talk about point in time restore.It is now based upon the fact that there are no hardware problems or what soever.I just would like to roll back to a situation of some time (minutes, hoursor what ever) ago.Used to the ingres database a point in time restore can take place UP toany, any, any time since the last FULL backup. (any time up to now !!!)I can't understand why a point in time restore can only be done based upontransaction log backups. The current transaction log is also available in myopinion. (Turn off the power, turn on the power and you will notice that theautomatic recovery is based upon this transaction log file; so in that casethis file is used)That's what my question is about. Is it correct that a point in time restorein a SQL server environment can only be done up to the last transaction logbackup.ByeArno de Jong,The Netherlands.
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Jul 20, 2005
I will make it simpler to look...I have DB1 - as backup for day 1LOg1 as backup of logsT1 T2 T3 T4 T5 ...some transaction on day 2Now i backup againDB2Log2I want to restore the database till the point of transaction T3 say. Iknow the time or i assume a certain time.Is this possible .....i tried several options but hand in between forsome reason or the other. How can i achieve my solution. Is there someextra parameter i will require or what....i am wondering now that it isnot at all possible. Please help.RVGIf possible guys can you please mail me the sloution onJoin Bytes!*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!
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Jan 11, 2001
PLEASE HELP...
WE ARE DOWNLOADING THE BACKUP FILE FROM OTHER BRANCH OFFICE AND THE FILE SIZE IS GROWING LIKE HELL SO I AM CHANGING THE BACKUP POLICY TO DOWNLOAD THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP FILES EVERYDAY. BUT EVEN THE FILE SIZE GROWS DAY BY DAY UNTILL WE TAKE THE FULL BACKUP THERE. SO I WANT TO TAKE A DIIFERNETIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY A FULL BACKUP AT THE REMOTE SERVER END. SO MY NEXT DIFFERNTIAL BACKUP WILL HAVE THE DATA OF ONLY PREVIOUS DAY.
FOR THIS I AM SCHEDULING A JOB WHICH FIRST TAKES A DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP AND THEN IMMIDIATELY FULL BACKUP EVERYDAY AT 12.00AM.
BUT I HAVE A CONCERN.. WHILE TAKING THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP ANY TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE TO BE COMMITED WILL NOT COMMIT UNTIL THE DIFFERENTIAL BACKUP COMPLETES. BUT IMMIDIATELY I AM STARTING FULL BACKUP. IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT A TRANSACTION GETTING COMMITTED IN BETWEEN THESE TWO STEPS. IF SO IS THERE ANY WAY .. NOT RELEASE THE DATABASE UNTILL THESE 2 BACKUPS ARE COMPLETED?? I AM RUNNING IT AS A JOB..
ANY SUGGESTION??
THANKS IN ADVANCE.. :-)
KUMAR
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Apr 27, 2001
I have daily scheduled full backups of each database and log backups scheduled for every 2 hours. My question is should they be scheduled for overwriting or appending? I have always had them set as overwrite, but I don't know if that is correct? Any recommendations would be appreciated
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Mar 28, 2007
Does the full and differential backups have to be in the same location or can I do a once a week full backup on one drive and everyday differential backups on a different drive?
Thanks
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Aug 11, 1999
How could i restore a filegroup to a certain point of time (not to apply all
transaction log up to the latest one) ??
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Jun 12, 2006
Has anyone seen this before?
Every Sunday morning (a different time each week) there is a full backup created for every database on the server. The backup is not a scheduled backup from any maintenance plan or SQL Agent job. The backup set is unrestorable and has a strange name in the format of 'DBNAME_00_12c95fb7_399d_41ce_9a0d_b5728b6a00ba_'
Because this backup is listed as the last full backup and will not restore, it is causing a problem with our disaster recovery plans as nothing will restore from this point forward to the next full backup.
Does anyone know how a backup record like this can get created, and/or how to find the source. The backups are listed in the backupsets table in msdb - are there other system tables that may hold some clues as to the source of these backups?
Any help or direction would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Apr 30, 2008
In what scenario – diff and full backups have same size? My guess is excessive fragmentation, any thoughts?
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Jan 14, 2008
But i have one issue bothering me, it will be great if someone can help me out on this
1. I take full backup on Monday 8 pm which ends at 9.30 PM
2. Diff Backup starts at 10 PM every 2 hrs till Tuesday 7.59 PM
3. Transactional Log backup is happening every 10 min till tueday 7.59 PM
Now when i restore it in the same order i get error that Log in the set is too late to apply. I have recemmonded by team to stop log backup on the time they start full backups and take transactional log backup only after differentials are restored. Now is this a correct suggestion???
Also appendin the differential backup is a good idea or overwriting them is a better approach if Database is backedup every night and Differential occurs every 2 hrs.
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Mar 21, 2008
I am running a full backup quarterly using "with init" to overwrite the existing file if it is still on the server. Then I run a differential back weekly using "with init". Finally I run a transaction log backup nightly using "with init".
My question is should I be using "with init" for the transaction log backup or allow it to accumulate until the next differential backup?
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May 12, 2008
Hi sql server experts.
This is a beginners question.
Let's say, I run a full backup at 4:30 am it takes usually 35 minutes to finish.
I want to schedule a differential backup to run every hour.
Should I start this job at 5:10 after the full backup finishes? or it doesn't matter?
I am confused about timing.
Let's say my full back up takes 1 hour to finish, that means that when the differential backup runs the full backup will be still running, so in case I need to restore the database, can I use this differential from 5:10 or the differential from 6:10.
Same issue with the transactional, the job runs every 30 minutes, should I started after the differential is done?
I am so confused, what happens with the backups jobs that run while other backups are running?
Is this something that should never happen.
Please advise.
Thanks
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May 18, 2005
If I have a database backup from sunday, and a failure occurs monday... Can the backup .mdf and .ldf files be attached, and the backup log after the point of failure be applied to them?
The problem I am having is it looks like you can only restore from a .bak file, and then apply the log at the point of failure. IT doesn't look like you can restore the .ldf/.mdf files, and then apply the backup log from the point of failure.
Can someone please help? I'm in desparate need of fixing this !
Thanks,dp
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Jun 6, 2014
Our backup system has worked ok for us to date. We can restore back to either full saves or up to a certain log (we take log backups on the hour). We've never had to, but wanted to test restoring to a point-in-time with the backup data.
What the system does is generates .mdf and .ldf files, which is essentially a full backup say in the middle of the night. It then creates .bak files for the log backups based on the backup set you want to restore.
I can detach the database and apply the .mdf and .ldf and re-attach the database, but to apply the .bak files I need to get the database into a (recovering) state. I can't seem to do that. Otherwise when I try to apply the .bak files the system says: The log or differential backup cannot be restored because no files are ready to rollforward.
How to apply a .mdf and then apply the .bak files?
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Sep 1, 2015
Can I use a full and differential backup to restore to a point of time?
Or I have to use full and transaction log backups in order to do a point of time restore?
I found today when I tried to restore a db from another database at the point of time for example 3:10 pm,
SSMS automatically select the full backup + the transaction backup that is done at 3:00 pm, but not select full + the differential backup I did at 3:12pm.
So I lost those records entered after 3:00pm.
I supposed it should use the differential backup and restore to 3:10. but it didn't.
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