Truncate Table Precludes Point-in-time Recovery?

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Hi All,

If I perform a truncate table (non-logged operation) in my application, will this preclude me from being able to do a partial recovery (point-in-time) of my app. using the transaction logs?

Thanks in advance,
Liz

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Hello all,

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