CHECKSUM && CHECKSUM_AGG In T-SQL

Sep 24, 2007

Hi,

I recently researched on the CHECKSUM & CHECKSUM_AGG functions in T-Sql and found them really useful. However, I was skeptical that there are chances of these functions returning the same values for non-identical inputs. I just got on to the forums and found more than one unhappy folks writing about their experience with these functions.

I am designing a large database (warehouse) and found these functions tempting to implement for the sake of

using CHECKSUM for

- indexing long character fields
- multiple colums of the same table that would involve in a join and use the new checksum field instead

using CHECKSUM_AGG for

- I bulkcopy flat file soruce data into a character field of a table and to ensure that I am not loading the same file multiple times, I plan to use CHECKSUM_AGG( CHECKSUM( [FlatFileRecord] ) ) and verify that no two loads have the same output.

Can some body suggest if I can trust these methods for my purpose?

Many thanks in advance!!

Thanks,
Harish

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Please execute the script below to understand the problem -


---
create table test(id int, col1 int,col2 varchar(5),col3 datetime)
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--id & col1 make up the PK.

insert test values(4,4,'d','02/06/2004')
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TRUNCATE TABLE TEST
TRUNCATE TABLE TEST2

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insert test2 values(4,4,'d','02/06/2004')
insert test2 values(4,4,'d','02/01/2004')

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Thanks



drop table test
drop table test2
go
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@MaxIndex INT,
@SUM BIGINT,
@Overflow TINYINT

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(
@Data TEXT
)
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AS

BEGIN
DECLARE@Index INT,
@MaxIndex INT,
@SUM BIGINT,
@Overflow TINYINT

SELECT@Index = 1,
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@SUM = 0

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SET

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[IsAlertEnabled]= I.[IsAlertEnabled],

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Hospital.[Name],

Hospital.[HospitalNumber],

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Hospital.[IsAlertEnabled],

Hospital.[AlertStartDate],

Hospital.[AlertEndDate],

Hospital.[IsTraining],

Hospital.[TestMessageInterval],

Hospital.[DelayAlertTime],

Hospital.[IsDelayMessageAlert],

Hospital.[IsTestMessageAlert],

Hospital.[IsUnAuthorizedMessageAlert],

Hospital.[IsWANDownAlert],

Hospital.[IsWANUpAlert]) !=

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I.[Name],

I.[HospitalNumber],

I.[ServerName],

I.[IsAuthorized],

I.[IsAlertEnabled],

I.[AlertStartDate],

I.[AlertEndDate],

I.[IsTraining],

I.[TestMessageInterval],

I.[DelayAlertTime],

I.[IsDelayMessageAlert],

I.[IsTestMessageAlert],

I.[IsUnAuthorizedMessageAlert],

I.[IsWANDownAlert],

I.[IsWANUpAlert]) ;





Here is the checksum example which produces same results for two different input.





DECLARE @V1 VARCHAR(10)

DECLARE @V2 VARCHAR(10)

SELECT @V1 = NULL, @V2=NULL

SELECT binary_checksum('KKK','San Jose','1418','1418SVR ',0,1,@V1,@V2,0,30,180,1,0,1,1,1),

binary_checksum('KKK','San Jose','1418','1418SVR ',1,1,@V1,@V2,0,30,180,1,1,1,1,1)



Lookat the two binary_checksum above, they are different and should not match, but they both return same value.



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For example, the following work as expected; it returns a non-zero checksum across (1) value or across (2) unequal values.

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-----------
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However, the function appears to returns 0 for an even number of repeated values.

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-----------
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It's not specific to -7077, for example:

declare @t table ( ID int );
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-----------
0

What's curious is that (3) repeated equal values will return a checksum > 0.

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-----------
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But a set of (4) repeated equal values will return 0 again.

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insert into @t ( ID ) values (-997777), (-997777), (-997777), (-997777);
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-----------
0

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-----------
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