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I am attempting to learn Service Broker from Bob Beauchemin's book "A Developer's Guide to SQL Server" - Chapter 11. I'm finding it to be very good but I'm confused over the concept of closing a conversation. Could someone answer the following questions for me?

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Code Block
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@err int,
@counter int,
@DialogTimeOut int,
@Message nvarchar(max),
@SendType int,
@ConversationID uniqueidentifier
select @Counter = 0 -- THIS PART VERY IMPORTANT LOL :)
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ON CONTRACT [TestQueueMsg_CON]
WITH ENCRYPTION = OFF;
BEGIN CONVERSATION TIMER ( @conversationHandle )
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END
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BEGIN
SEND ON CONVERSATION @conversationHandle
MESSAGE TYPE [TestQueueMsg] (@Message)
END
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-- if succeeded, exit the loop now
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-- Refer to http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164086.aspx for severity levels
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The communication is really a one way where the initiator sends the data to the target and does not process or need a message sent back from the target.

Thank you for your time.

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Jul 13, 2006

I have a conversation that I want to know has not ended so I am using LIFETIME.

When the conversation times out I then have three records in the queue.

1. The original conversation record that has not been received.

2. Error message to the initiator.

3. Error message to the target.

Both message bodies on the error records say that it was a lifetime error.

If I end the conversation on the initiator side after it is sent, I still get the target error record but the message_body field is null.

So say I don't end the conversation on the initator side. My next receive on the target side will pull the original record. Then it will pull the initator record and then it will pull the target record. Nothing on that record says that it had timed out.

What is the best practice for handling lifetime errors?

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Mar 21, 2007

When I try to execute the following statement:

END CONVERSATION DIALOG CONVERT(uniqueidentifier, '58C1A7AA-C0D7-DB11-B4C6-005056C00008')

using ICommand.Execute method, I got an error:

Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'END'.

I use SQL Native Client as OLE DB Provider.

In profiler I can see that my statement becomes like this:

exec END CONVERSATION CONVERT(uniqueidentifier, '903586ED-C0D7-DB11-B4C6-005056C00008')

So provider add 'exec' before my statement, maybe because NCLI don't know such statetment and thinks that it is a stored procedure call with the name 'END'?

Is there is a way to avoid it except of using following construction:

exec sp_executesql N''END CONVERSATION ...

 ?

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Jan 17, 2007

Hello people

I am new to service broker and would like a little help please. I have a SP which gathers information from a collection of tables. Depending on the data gathered it may or may not begin a dialog conversation with a service broker queue. What i'm needing to know is should at the end of the SP once the required message has been sent should i end the conversation or not?



Many thanks in advance, Michael



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