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Hi,

I am going to install SQL Server 2000 (then SQL 2K5) on a Win Server 2K3 with 8 GB of ram, but it will be 16 GB in the near future.

I would like to reserve a fixed memory (for momemt less than 3-4 GB) for SQL Server and the rest for application (virtualization).

Without AWE enabled, max memory for SQL Server 2K5 is 4GB as for SQL Server 2000?

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