Tempdb File Size
Aug 26, 2007
I have the classic "tempdb-out-of-space" problem. Unfortunately, my server fails to reboot properly as tempdb is located on the C: drive which is now completely full. While I understand the changes required to prevent this from happening again, I want to know if it will even reboot if I delete tempdb.mdf and tempdb.ldf. I've read conflicting information on MSDN about default tempdb file size:
- files are built to the default size (I will be fine)
- files are built to the same size as before (problem)
Which is true for SQL 2005?
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Aug 10, 2007
We have a problem with the size of the tempdb.mdf file. The tempdb had grown to 25Gb and consumed all the available disk space. SQL server was restarted and the tempdb was reset back to the default size. The following day the tempdb suddenly increased in size from 200mb to 25GB within a very short space of time. There were a couple of event log entries from sqlservger regarding the lack of disk. Since then the server is running without any problems but the level of free space is virtually zero on the drive with tempdb.mdf file.
What would cause the tempdb to grow suddenly and to this size?
Can I control the size the tempdb can grow to?
SQL 2005 (x64) sp1
W2K3 R2 SP1
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Sep 12, 2011
We have installed SQL Server 2008 R2 SP1 instance and it's having Share Point 2010 databases.
We have 2 dedicated drives for Tempdb on SAN with 50 GB space. Both tempdb data & log files are created with default size. I would like to presize them.
What are the best values to start with?
U ->Tempdbdata having tempdb.mdf file
V->Tempdblog having templog.ldf file
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Sep 4, 2007
I am trying to resize a database initial log file from 500M to 2M. I€™m using€?
ALTER DATABASE <DBNAME> MODIFY FILE ( NAME = <DBLOGFILENAME, SIZE = 2 ) "
And I'm getting "MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size." I tried going into the database properties and setting the log file to 2M, but it doesn€™t keep the changes.
Any help with this process?
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May 31, 2000
Hi,
What should be the size of TEMPDB should i set ,if my production databse is 500 mb to 1 gb.
Thanks
Nil.
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Jul 21, 1999
I have an SQL server that has probably 20 or so people connected at a time. In addition to these people, there are five people that run Crystal reports with some voluminous data, usually coming from views.
About every week and a half, one of the report writers get a message that the master device is full and must be expanded, because tempdb is full. When I expand temdb, it fixes the problem.
My question is, the tempdb is now 800 Megs. The sum total of memory allocated to all of the other(besides master)devices is 650. Should this be a flag that something is wrong? It just keeps growing and growing. Tempdb is not on it's own device-it is still on master.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Jane Davis
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Jun 11, 2007
when I restart SQL server my tempdb database is 1.9Gb. I thought it was deleted and replaced with a copy of the model database. Is this not so?
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Apr 9, 1999
I have read that MS suggests you tempdb be atleast 25% of your largest database. Is there any way to monitor your tempdb to determine if it is filling up or being 100% utilized and needs to be expanded?
Thanks,
David
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Dec 2, 1998
I have a server with 2.5GB of RAM. I am allocation 1GB to SQL Server and am attempting to put 500MB tempdb in RAM. It would appear as though I am hitting some sort of max threshhold that I am unaware of as I can set tempdb in RAM up to 320MB. Anything beyond that and I get the following errors on start up and SQL Server will not start.
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 Clearing temp db
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 kernel udactivate(IN_RAM): Operating system error 8(Not enough storage is available to process this command.) encountered
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 Device activation error. The physical filename 'IN_RAM' may be incorrect
98/12/02 08:25:47.03 spid1 crdb_tempdb: Unable to move tempdb into RAM; RAM device doesn't exist, cannot be created, or doesn't have enough space for tempdb
I am certain that I am not hitting a Physical RAM limit and the memory checks out and is visible to NT. Please Advise. Thanks
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Sep 9, 2001
What should be size of tempdb.
I am daily getting tempdb translog is full error.
Then i need to dump the transaction with dump traan.... with no log.
After this only server working fine.
Any solution please...
Thanks in Advance.
Selvam
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May 3, 2000
Hello Everyone!
Is there any way by which I can determine whether the tempdb size for the SQL Server is enough or not? (I ean are there any symptoms like excessive paging etc. that can identify this bottleneck?).
Thanks!
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Mar 3, 2000
We had a runaway query which built the size of tempdb to 24000mb. Then someone changed the unrestricted file growth property to restricted growth while the size was 24000mb. Now I can not reduce the initial size. I have set the property back to unrestricted file growth. I have shrunk the tempdb and available space is almost 24000mb. I have stopped sqlserver. I even deleted the existing tempdb.mdf & tempdb.ldf files. But when SQL server is restarted, the initial size is set to 24000mb. It will not let me reduce the size. Is there anything short of manipulating the system tables to reduce the size back to 500mb?
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Jan 17, 2001
We currently have a hard-drive size of 3.89MB and 3.3MB is being used by tempdb. I have tried shrinking the database truncateonly but this is not working. The problem is that the tempdb file is as large as my C: drive size. In addition can this be moved to another directory. For example can I move the tempdb.mdf and ldf from C: to E:. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Apr 29, 2008
Hi All,
On my server C drive is of 34GB. Right now tempdb size is 22GB which is causing C drive to be full. How I can I reduce it? I dont want to move tempdb to any other drive, and I am only looking a way to reduce its size.
Please help quickly....
Thanks,
Zee
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Feb 11, 2002
I have a tempdb that was created at 1Gig. I don't know why but I want to shrink it below the original creation size. Is there a way to shrink this file or create a new file and delete the old?
I have tried shinkfile and shrink database with no luck.
Thanks Jeff
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Mar 20, 2007
Against my better judgement, we are using fixed allocations of tempdb on some of our servers. This is to deal with specific limitations of our applicaitons and hardware configuration that I'm not allowed to discuss in much detail.
The problem that I have is that the present plan is to configure the data file at around 18 Gb and the log file at around 2 Gb. This seems just plain wrong to me, but I haven't been able to find a formal recommendation that gives any relative sizing. I would expect to have about twice as much log as data space, especially for tempdb.
Does anyone know of a formal citation (preferably from Microsoft) that discusses this?
-PatP
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Nov 17, 2015
I am considering turning on RCSI to prevent blocking, how do I estimate the size of tempdb?
I am monitoring current tempdb usage of space for
UserObjectsUsageKB,
InternalObjectsKB,
VersionStoreKB,
FreeSpaceKB. Â
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Apr 18, 2000
I have got SQLv6.5 SP5a with SMS1.2 SP4 on seperate Alpha boxes. I have automated the backups so they are scheduled for after hours. SMS gets backed up first and TEMPDB shortly afterwards. However, since a back log in SMS MIFS has happened, the TEMPDB backup displays of 100,000pages backed up. When you back it up on its own, it only shows 170+ pages.
The SMS DB is 600MB in size, the Log is 210MB, Open objects is 5000, and TEMPDB is set 210MB on its own device.
Any ideas
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Nov 29, 2001
SQL Server 6.5
I am running a Query in my Production Server. It is hardly taking 15 Mins. The same Query is taking more than 3 Hours in my test server. I can see the only difference between these two servers is Tempdb Size. Will tempdb size matters the performance of a Query. Can anyone reply me?
Thanks in Advance
Krishnakumar
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Jul 27, 2015
My prod server (only default instance) is configured TempDB 1024 MB data and Log 200MB. when I run 'sqlperf logspace' it shows most of time around 45% 'log space used'. There nothing going on the instance when I ran 'whoisactive' and select * from sys.sysprocesses where dbid = 2!!!
So my questions are is this normal to see log space around 45%, how to find what what CAUSED the tempdb log space to grow 45%? Is there something to do about it?
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Apr 15, 2008
I have a log file that is approximately 50 GIG. I backed up just the log and the file size of the .bak is 192 GIG . Why is this? Shouldn't it be closer to the 50 GIG.
Normally I wouldn't let log grow this much. But we are in process of getting new server up and running and don't have backups going yet. They are working on getting that up and running this week.
So I did a log backup to give me back some log space for now but was concerned when I saw the size of the .bak file.
When I view media contents of the backup device it shows one tranaction log back up and size of 192 GIG.
What is up with this. I know in SQL 2000 the log backup files where never this big. they were about the size of the log itself.
Any ideas?
Stacy
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Apr 14, 2014
I receive Error: 3967, Severity: 17, State: 1. Insufficient space in tempdb to hold row versions. We have 8 data files for temp db of 10210 GB size and given 10240 GB as max size.
As MS suggest to calculate the temp db file size and growth rate we need to monitor the perform counters Free Space in Tempdb (KB) and Version Store Size (KB) in the Transactions object.
basic formula: [Size of Version Store] = 2 * [Version store data generated per minute] * [Longest running time (minutes) of your transaction
My report disk utilizations says tempdb is full ? I thonk I need a shrink for the file .
Still I am confused in calculating the size , My perform counter gives me data as such
Free Space in tempdb (KB)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 279938496
Version Generation rate (KB/s)Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 53681040
Version Cleanup rate (KB/s)Â Â Â Â Â Â 53422320
Version Store Size (KB)Â Â Â Â Â 258720
Version Store unit count      22
Version Store unit creation                     774
Version Store unit truncation        752
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Jun 15, 2006
I installed sql 2005 a while back. Then I recently found out my file system was fat32 (I don't understand why the hardware people did this...) and I had to convert to NTFS. Naturally the sql service no longer worked so I uninstalled inorder to reinstall now I can't reinstall it I keep getting this message
native_error=5039, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]MODIFY FILE failed. Specified size is less than current size.
I'll try to post the full log in a new post.
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Jul 25, 2007
I have one db test with one .mdf and .ldf file...mdf file size is 100mb and for some reson i removed all the tablesfrom that .mdf file and transfer it into new secondary file so all thetables moved into secondary file now i want to reduce the first .mdffile from 100 mb to 50mb is that possible,it's showing 90mb is free.Please reply
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Jun 16, 2014
The TEMPDB transaction log file keeps growing.The database server is new and the transaction log was presized to 1 GB on installation. After installing a number of databases, the log file grew over a day to 38GB. Issuing a manual checkpoint was the only way to free some space to allow it to be shrunk back to a usable size. The usage of the file is still going up.
I am struggling to find what process is causing the log to be used so heavily. Looking at the log reuse wait desc for tempdb returns "Nothing" and tempdb itself isn't being used very much or growing in size.
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Apr 14, 2015
Here are my scenarios:
We have an application with replicated environment setup on sql server 2012 . Users will have a replica on their machines and they will replicate to the master database. It has 3 subscriptions subscribed to the publications on the master db.
1) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with no sql server on it. After the initial synchronization(used replmerge tool) the mdf file has grown to 33gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studion . Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 84 gb with little empty free space available.
2) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with sql server 2008 on it. After the initial synchronization(used replmerge tool) the mdf file has grown to 49 gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studio , Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 90 gb with 16 gb free space available.
3) We set up a replica(which uses sql server 2012) on a machine with sql server 2012 on it. We have dropped the local database and recreated the local db and did the initial synchronization using replmerge tool. The mdf file has grown to 49 gigs and ldf has grown to 41 gigs. I went to sql server management studio , Right click and checked the properties of the local database. over all size is around 90 gb with 16 gb free space available.
Why it is allocating the space differently? This is effecting our initial replica set up times.
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Oct 12, 2007
Hello all I am new here so I am sorry if this question has been asked 1,000,000 times.
First let me describe my environment:
VM-Ware ESX 3.01
3.0Ghz (Dedicated to VM)
3.0 GB RAM (Dedicated to VM)
Windows Server 2003 SP2
SQL Server 2005 SP2
Spotlight for SQL Server
Quest SQL Watch
Now the issue:
We are in current development of a new manufacturing system so the above system is just a development box at this stage. The problem that I am having is that the tempdb log file seems to grow out of control, and if I do not have time to shrink it, I have to bounce the mssql service in order to do anything once the disk is completly full. At one point I even made a job to shrink the log file every 15 minutes to try and prevent the uncontrolled growth.
I have researched this everywhere and it really is starting to get frustrating. I am highly leaning towards the application that is utilizing the database is heavily dependant on #temp tables. So I found this query to return me the top colums being used in the tempdb.
SELECT OBJECT_NAME(id), rowcnt
FROM tempdb..sysindexes
WHERE OBJECT_NAME(id) LIKE '#%'
ORDER BY rowcnt DESC
And I get the table that is using up the most rows.
SELECT *
FROM tempdb..sysindexes
WHERE OBJECT_NAME(id) LIKE '#4440A7FE'
After doing this I figured out that there is something that is writing to the tempdb around every 15 seconds about 100000+ rows at a time. And the alarming thing about it is that the record "rowmodctr" is already over 1 billion. So that leads me to beleive that this has modified rows over 1 billion times since I last rebooted the server a week ago.
So the main question that I have is. Is there a way to query what is inside that '#4440A7FE' table, so that I can pin it down to a session?
Also I have already said to the development team to use "derived tables" instead of temp tables, but they just fight with me all the time and blame the problem on hardware and configuration.
Please please help me with this as it getting really frustrating I am so sick of shriking that file. And sometimes it grows more that 3GB in less than 15 minutes.
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Mar 22, 2007
Hello when I start executing a transact SQL process, my tempdb file is about 5Mb and It's log file is 1Mb, when the process finishes the log file never gets cleaned again... so It uses a lot of hard disk space and I can't run the process again...
Pd. the process has a "begin tran" and a "commit" at the end...
Could you tell me what to do ???
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Jul 31, 2014
I need to write a process to get file size in kb and record count in a file. I was planning on writing a c# console app that takes the file path and name as a param however should i use a CLR?
I cant put a script in the ssis when it's bringing the file down because it has been deemed that we only use ssis for file consumption.
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Sep 22, 2015
What is the recommended size and file growth for a database and log file? We will be storing approx 10000 records a day.Currently we have the following:
CREATE DATABASE Dummy
ONÂ
PRIMARY
( NAME = Dummy_data,
  FILENAME = 'D:....DATADummy.mdf',
  SIZE = 250MB,
  FILEGROWTH = 25MB )
LOG ON
( NAME = Dummy_log,
  FILENAME = 'D:....DATADummy_log.ldf',
  SIZE = 50MB,
  FILEGROWTH = 5MB ) ;
GO
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Oct 20, 2004
My SQL Server Tempdb log file looks to be very larg now...its taking up lot disk space...
How is that I can control the size of tempdb log files...?? What should i do save some disk space...!!!
Please help
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Sep 8, 2006
I need some help understanding the benefit of creating tempdb with one file per processor. I believe the benefit has something to do with the way SQL Server utilizes processor threads, but I'm a bit weak on the details.
Thanks, Dave
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