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Jul 20, 2005

Hi all,

I'm working on the schema for a database that must represent data about stock
& bond funds over time. My connundrum is that, for any of several dimension
fields, including the fund name itself, the dimension may be represented in
different ways over time, and may split or combine from one period to the
next.

When querying from the database for an arbitrary time period, I need the data
to be rolled up to the smallest extent possible so that apples can be compared
to apples. For instance, if the North America region becomes 2 regions, USA
and Canada, and I query a time period that spans the period in which this
split occurred, I should roll up USA and Canada and for records in the period
that has both, and I should call the result something like "(North
America)(USA/Canada)" in the output. The client specifies that the dimension
output must represent all dimensions that went into the input.
Of course, I have to account for more complex possibilities as well, e.g.
Fund-A splits into Fund-B and Fund-C, then Fund-C merges into Fund-D producing
(Fund-A/Fund-D)(Fund-B/Fund-C/Fund-D)(Fund-B/Fund-D)

I can think of several ways to handle this issue, and they're all
extraordinarily complex and ugly. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

- Steve Jorgensen

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on 0,

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October FY2007
October FY2007
October FY2007
November FY2007
November FY2007
November FY2007


test2
test4
diff
test2
test4
diff

All
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200610
#Error
200805
200611
#Error

None
200805
200610
#Error
200805
200611
#Error

Actual
200805
200610
#Error
200805
200611
#Error

Forecast
200805
200610
#Error
200805
200611
#Error

Override
200805
200610
#Error
200805
200611
#Error

Plan
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200610
#Error
200805
200611
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<SQL Server 2008 R2>

I created a Time table using BIS. I found that the default naming of time members is too long and redundant.

For example, the wizard generated "Fiscal Calendar 2015", "Fiscal Quarter 1, 2015", etc. However, shorter expression like "FY2015", "FQ1 2015", etc would be enough for me. 

Is it possible to change the default naming rule, or does SSAS works correctly if I update the Time table values using SQL?

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May 21, 2015

I have a parent child dimension. a time dimension i have year.

Assume,

ParentID ChildID sales Year

171 171 10 2014
171 172 200 2014
171 173 300 2014
171 172 44 2015

if I pass 2014 and 2015 in sub select  171 data is not coming in result. i i pass only 2014 in sub select i get value of only 2014. if I pass 2015 in sub select i didn't get any value.                                                                         

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UNION With A Max On Split Date/Time Fields

Mar 30, 2000

I have 2 tables, each with one ID field, a separate
Date and Time fields and a number of other fields.
The tables contain duplicates on the ID field.
I want to do a UNION keeping only the record with the latest
Date and Time.

This would work:
SELECT MyTab.myKeyField, Max(MyTab.myDate) AS myDate
FROM (SELECT myKeyField, myDate
from Table1
union
SELECT myKeyField, myDate
from Table2) AS MyTab
GROUP BY MyTab.myKeyField

But is only taking care of Date, not Time (some records have
the same date but different times)
The other problem is, when I add more fields, I have to
include them in the GROUP BY clause, and this way I end up
with duplicates (because some other fields have different
values)

Is there a way to do this?

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