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How, using Perfmon (?), can I determine the max amount of memory to assign to each instance? (It is my understanding that I definitiely need to limit the amount of RAM used by each instance.)


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Problem description:
--------------------------------------------------
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Code Block
C:>listsqlsvr -X
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DEV002EXPRESS
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INSADOFFICEWSUS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
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Code Block
C:>listsqlsvr -X
(local);Clustered:No;Version:7.00.623
ADM002DRUMIS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
DEV001DRUMIS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
DEV001DRUMIS
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DEV002EXPRESS
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INSADBACKOFFICEEXACT;Clustered:No;Version:9.00.3042.00
INSADOFFICEWSUS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
SUP001DRUMIS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194




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Code Block
C:listsqlsvr -X
(local)
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DEV001
DEV002
DEV004
INSADBACKOFFICE
INSADOFFICE
SUP001






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Code Block
C:listsqlsvr -X
(local)
ADM002
DEV001
DEV002
DEV004
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INSADBACKOFFICEDRUMIS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
INSADBACKOFFICEEXACT;Clustered:No;Version:9.00.3042.00
INSADOFFICE
SUP001




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