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Nov 10, 2007

 Hello!
 I have two tables
table1:                     table2:
person                     Manager
----------                     -----------------
*id                           *id
*Manager_id             *Name
*Branch                   *Title
 
Now I want to select person.* and Mangager.Name, where person.Manager_id=Manager.id.
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So, something like Select person.*, Manager.id From person, Manager Where person.id=4 AND person.Manager=id=Manager.id doesn't work.
 
Can somebody explain me how to fix it? I'm using MS-SQL2000 if it is important....
 
Best regards!
 

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ON
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The result i got was same,i.e

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