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Code Block
print ' '
print '************* Beginning Index Updates for '+db_name()+' *************'
print ' '

DECLARE @tablename varchar(250),


@indexname varchar(250),
@fragpcnt decimal(18,1),
@indexid int,
@dbID int

-- Determine DB ID
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DECLARE tnames_cursor CURSOR FOR

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JOIN sys.indexes b ON a.object_id = b.object_id



AND a.index_id = b.index_id
JOIN Sys.objects c ON b.object_id = c.object_id
WHERE a.index_id > 0
ORDER by a.page_count DESC

OPEN tnames_cursor
FETCH NEXT FROM tnames_cursor INTO @indexname, @tablename, @fragpcnt, @indexid
WHILE (@@fetch_status = 0)

BEGIN

-- Declare and determine the tablename ID
declare @tablenameID int
select @tablenameID = object_id(@tablename)



IF @fragpcnt > 30

BEGIN

EXEC('ALTER INDEX ['+@indexname+'] ON ['+@tablename+'] REBUILD')
PRINT '***************************************************'
PRINT 'Index '+@indexname+' was rebuilt.'
PRINT 'Original framentation Percent: ' + convert(varchar, @fragpcnt) + '%'


SELECT @fragpcnt = avg_fragmentation_in_percent
FROM sys.dm_db_index_physical_stats (@dbID, @tablenameID, @indexid, NULL, NULL) a

JOIN sys.indexes b ON a.object_id = b.object_id



AND a.index_id = b.index_id
JOIN Sys.objects c ON b.object_id = c.object_id

PRINT 'Post Rebuild fragmentation Percent: ' + convert(varchar, @fragpcnt) + '%'
PRINT ''
END
ELSE IF @fragpcnt BETWEEN 5 AND 30

BEGIN

EXEC('ALTER INDEX ['+@indexname+'] ON ['+@tablename+'] REORGANIZE')
PRINT '***************************************************'
PRINT 'Index '+@indexname+' was Reorganized.'
PRINT 'Original framentation Percent: ' + convert(varchar, @fragpcnt) + '%'

SELECT @fragpcnt = avg_fragmentation_in_percent
FROM sys.dm_db_index_physical_stats (@dbID, @tablenameID, @indexid, NULL, NULL) a

JOIN sys.indexes b ON a.object_id = b.object_id



AND a.index_id = b.index_id
JOIN Sys.objects c ON b.object_id = c.object_id

PRINT 'Post Reorganization fragmentation Percent: ' + convert(varchar, @fragpcnt) + '%'
PRINT ''
END
ELSE

BEGIN

PRINT '***************************************************'
PRINT 'Index '+@indexname+' was left alone.'
PRINT 'Original framentation Percent: ' + convert(varchar, @fragpcnt) + '%'
PRINT ''
END
FETCH NEXT FROM tnames_cursor INTO @indexname, @tablename, @fragpcnt, @indexid
END
print ' '
print '************* NO MORE TABLES TO INDEX *************'
PRINT 'All indexes for the '+db_name()+' database have been updated.'
print ' '
DEALLOCATE tnames_cursor





Below are some snipits of the output:


***************************************************
Index _dta_index_wuci_history_8_1123587141__K2_K5 was rebuilt.
Original framentation Percent: 58.3%
Post Rebuild fragmentation Percent: 58.3%

***************************************************
Index PK__batchjob__776C5C84 was left alone.
Original framentation Percent: 0.0%

***************************************************
Index PK__ContactWebDetail__116A8EFB was rebuilt.
Original framentation Percent: 44.4%
Post Rebuild fragmentation Percent: 77.8%

***************************************************
Index PK__managed_object_s__5DCAEF64 was left alone.
Original framentation Percent: 0.0%

***************************************************
Index kb_IX_kb_scope_scope_role was rebuilt.
Original framentation Percent: 75.0%
Post Rebuild fragmentation Percent: 87.5%

***************************************************
Index PK__query__09A971A2 was left alone.
Original framentation Percent: 0.0%

***************************************************
Index PK__email_message__38996AB5 was rebuilt.
Original framentation Percent: 85.7%
Post Rebuild fragmentation Percent: 0.0%

***************************************************






If the index begins with PK, then it is the primary key index which is generally the clustered index on the table, but not always. If it has an IX on it, it is generally a non-clustered index on the table, but again not always. In the case of the above, the PK is a clustered index, and the IX is a non-clustered index.

Anyone have any ideas why this is functioning in this manner?

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